Face to Face with God
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Exactly what does that mean? If we “see the face of God,” who actually are we looking at?
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Death sentence for seeing face of God !!!!!
Exd 33:20 And he[God] said [to Moses], Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
Exd 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
“No man hath seen God at any time” John 1:18
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Where the LORD talks Face to Face – contradiction?
Num 14:14 And they will tell [it] to the inhabitants of this land: [for] they have heard that thou LORD [art] among this people, that thou LORD art seen face to face, and [that] thy cloud stands over them, and [that] thou go before them, by day time in a pillar of a cloud, and in a pillar of fire by night.
Deu 5:4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,
Deu 34:10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,
Gen 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
Exd 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
Eze 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
Dan 10:6 His body also [was] like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in color to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
****Daniel was face to face with someone here….He sees his eyes.
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Clarification:
“LORD” Does not always = “GOD.”
“Lord” is a title addressed to angels when they appear as well.
The angel of the Lord is also Lord, and is present when God calls Moses from the bush.
Exd 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush [was] not consumed.
***see Deu 5:4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,
*** God is in the bush, but so is the angel of the Lord.
Exd 3:3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.
Exd 3:4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here [am] I.
Exd 3:6 Moreover he [God] said, I [am] the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
*** note that it was the angel of the Lord that Moses saw, but it was God that talked to Moses.
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Effects of being in direct contact with God’s glory
Exd 34:29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses’ hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.
Exd 34:30 And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him
Exd 34:35 And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses’ face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him.
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The Jericho encounter
Jos 5:13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, [Art] thou for us, or for our adversaries?
Jos 5:14 And he said, Nay; but [as] captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?
Jos 5:15 And the captain of the LORD’S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy. And Joshua did so.
In this case, the angel of the Lord (captain of the host of the Lord, not God himself) appears to Joshua. However, Joshua falls in worship. Normally, the “average angel” would not accept worship, being only servants of God. This is someone with a divine nature. So when Joshua sees the person in front of Him, he sees this divinity and worships. The angel of the Lord is thought to be the pre-incarnate Jesus (Yeshua), who shares the divine nature of his father God.
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Isaiah mentions an eye to eye encounter with the Lord when he returns to Zion to redeem Israel.
Isa 52:8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD [Yahovah] shall bring again Zion.
*** This is saying people will actually experience a physical Lord that they can look at , and who can look back at them, when Israel experiences its future redemption.
Isa 52:9 Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the LORD hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem.
Isa 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.
***how do you see salvation? In Hebrew, it actually says “all the earth will see Yeshua Elohim.” This is Jesus, son of God, coming as Messiah. When you see the Messiah in person, you will see God, since he will be covered with the glory of his Father.
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Conclusion. God, the Father, is God in the burning bush. No one can see His face. When a face to face interaction is occurring, apparently the angel of the Lord (Jesus, Yeshua) appears in a tangible way, and it is his face that people see.
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It’s crying shame not to be able to see God’s face til after death sentence.. but I would understand him completely if I am in his place… to be invisible to others.. So people have to decide on their own free will.. and to believe with all their hearts.. and to surrender themselves freely into His hands to do His will… and believe in HIS love also. Until time comes.. all will in the end. 🙂 Bless you all..
hi Tamera,
People had the chance to see Jesus when he came, but they rejected him, so he left. IF they had accepted him, then he would still be with us today, and we would see him face to face.
But do not worry, he will be back soon, and we will see him again.!!
I find it fascinating that many Muslims are seeing visions and having dreams of Jesus – and getting gloriously saved – yet many of us Christians long to ‘see’ Him! But Jesus told Thomas, “Blessed are those who believe, though they do not see..”
Visions are on the increase in these end times; those who press in to God will have more of those, and sometimes they will include seeing Him. I’m actually believing to see Him w/ my eyes while I’m still here!
Hey Cindy,
I have been pondering a lot lately on what Jesus said “when you see me, you have seen the Father”…..just a thought
Jesus radiates the glory, countenance, and presence of his father. No one can see the Father and live, but we can see the face of Jesus. Jesus is a reflection of the Father.
my thoughts: if you are looking in a mirror, you see a reflection of yourself. it is not you, but it looks like you. the image is 2 dimensional, but you are more than that. However, the image or reflection is a good idea of what you look like.
when we see Jesus, it is like looking in a mirror, and seeing a 2 dimensional image of the Father. It is not the real Father, in multidimensional form, but a reflection, and a good idea of who he is.
🙂 thank you
I am remembering a lot the “dream” I had of the crucifixion. I remember looking into Jesus’ eyes. I can’t help but cry every time I remember this; remembering Him.
I have been thinking so much on this lately along with what Jesus said about seeing Him and seeing His Father and now adding with what you have said above.
It occurred to me this past week that not only did G-d show me who His Son is but also showed me who He IS.
What did I see? it can be such a cliche, but I truly did SEE LOVE. It went beyond even that…I “saw” with every sense of my being and with all my senses and probably those I am not even aware I have.
This LOVE is beyond words….unfathomable is the only word I can think of.
He truly leaves HIS MARK upon you is all I can really say to describe.
This experience was over 22 years ago and is still so much a reality per se, as if BRANDED somehow into my conscience….my heart.
After writing this, I am thinking of your post Marianne regarding the 5th seal and the question that you asked that I was so afraid of-are we ready to die for Him?
I can now say with confidence (if only because of this experience) that if G-d has chosen me to die for Him at anytime, I will then close my eyes and remember that moment that I looked into Jesus eyes and that will be my strength….HE WILL BE MY STRENGTH; knowing that when my eyes are opened I will most assuredly SEE HIM….and not as He once was when I saw Him laying there on the ground upon the cross but standing upright and in His full Glory!
Job 19:23-27
25I know that my Redeemer lives…..
Psalm 73:26 My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.
Psalm 118:6 The LORD is with me; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?
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Guest: Deborah Shambora
November 12-18, 2007
After Deborah’s eyes were damaged in an accident, God gave her the ability to see into the spirit world. Now she sees angels and has an open access to heaven.
(TAMERA) i thing that we dont see GOD even after dead sentence !!!
Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
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The River of Life
1Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4 THEY WILL SEE HIS FACE, and his name will be on their foreheads
Who has actually seen Jesus ? No one that I know of. Who has felt Jesus, ME. Can we see Love (GOD). Walk into a dark room make the effort to turn on the switch and the darkness is gone, praise GOD !
hi Dan
There are many reports of people blessed enough to have a vision of Jesus. Others feel his presence like you do. The Lord is good, and he is with us always.
Ex. 33.23, I believe means, I will give you a certain amount of knowledge and no more.