Forsake all? – All what?

 

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“All” cannot possibly mean “all,” or “everything.”

If we were to forsake the necessities of life, we would die.

So, what does Jesus mean?


Luk 14:33   So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsakes not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Everyone has at least something, no matter how meager.

Have we all failed?

I have a house, and family, and a car.  Many have good jobs, and many blessings.

Are we neglectful or disobedient for having these things?

To follow Jesus, and be his disciple, we must consider the cost.

To “forsake all” is the conclusion, so what factors led to that conclusion, and what is to be forsaken?

Since to “forsake all” concludes the chapter, let us go back to earlier in the chapter, to see what must be forsaken.

The 5 things to forsake:

1. Luke 14:8-11. Pride. Instructions not to sit in the most honored place, but in the most humble.

Luk 14:11   For whosoever exalts himself shall be abased; and he that humbles himself shall be exalted.

2. Luke 14: 12-14 Need for temporal, earthly rewards for good works

Luk 14:12   Then said he also to him that bade him, When you make a dinner or a supper, call not your friends, nor your brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor your] rich neighbors; lest they also bid you again, and a recompense be made you.

Luk 14:13   But when you make a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:

Luk 14:14   And you shall be blessed; for they cannot recompense you: for thou shall be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.

3. Luke 14: 16-24 Worldly cares and desires that take priority before God.

Luk 14:18   And they all with one [consent] began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused.

Luk 14:19   And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused.

Luk 14:20   And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.

4. Luke 14: 25-26 Family, or family activities, that prevent discipleship

Luk 14:26   If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Here, Jesus is not instructing to hate loving family members, but that they should love God so much, that their love for their family is hate by comparison.

He is also referring to those family that will reject and oppose the gospel.

Also, putting superficial family desires before Jesus is not discipleship.

For example, you would prefer to have your kids in 10 different sports activities rather than Bible study or preaching the gospel.

You have chosen NOT to spend your time serving God, but your family instead.

Sports is ok, but it should not cause you to have no time left for spiritual things.

5. Luke 14: 27 Avoiding the Cross

Luk 14:27   And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Finally, we must realize that following Jesus is not having a happy time at church.

It is a responsibility. It requires self –sacrifice, and preparation.

Jesus says to “consider the cost.”

Luk 14:28   For which of you, intending to build a tower, sits not down first, and counts the cost, whether he have [sufficient] to finish [it]?

Luk 14:31   Or what king, going to make war against another king, sits not down first, and consults whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

Following Jesus may cause us losses. Loss comes in many forms.

I talk to those whose families have been attacked, spouses have rejected them, they have terrible health issues that come out of no where, with unknown medical causes.

I have many on my prayer list suffering from witchcraft related attacks, and they have lost loved ones because of this.

We can be attacked directly for our faith, or we can suffer indirectly, where the accuser does not admit the true reason for the attack. They may claim it was our fault, something we did, not them.

In the meantime, we have to respond as Jesus would have us respond. This is very hard. Instead of getting in the flesh, and reacting in a like fashion to others who are hateful or ungodly, we have to respond in a Christ like manner.

This can actually make things worse for us. But we must continue in faith, and endure to the end, knowing that God will not allow on us anything we cannot handle.

Many times, it is our love of the world, or our pride, which is being broken in the trial we have to endure. 

This is our “cost” – the price we have to pay.

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Conclusion

To follow Jesus means we must be ready to give up our pride, and our desire to be paid and recognized for what we do for God.

We must put God first, and not even our families, jobs, recreations, earthly cares and desires should take precedence over serving Jesus.

Finally, we must see our flesh for what it is, and allow it to be put on the cross to die.

Because, it is the flesh that will not heed the invitation to follow Christ.

Until our flesh dies, we will be prideful, selfish, wanting credit and acknowledgment for everything we do, and putting our social lives and families first before Jesus, to the point where we ignore Jesus completely, because we have no time left for Him.

So, are you a real disciple of Jesus?

Or, are there some things you need to forsake first?


*** Final note

The requirement to “forsake all” reminds me of marriage vows, where the two parties promise to “forsake all others.”

In a way, Jesus is asking the same thing.

Will you forsake all others for Him?

If you are the Bride of Christ, you will say “I do.”


14 Responses to “Forsake all? – All what?”

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    • Greetings Evangelist Pollak Here, I enjoyed what you just shared about FORSAKE ALL!Truly ,WE as CHRISTIANS must CRUCIFY OUR FLESH DAILY< as the Apostle Paul tells us to,We must understand that CHRSIT is FIRST,above ALL,Amen.An in order to do so we must stay in his WORD DAILY.SATAN is on the move DAILY SEEKING WHOM HE CAN DEVOUR, AN hes after THOSE WHO CONFESS JESUS IS LORD!So we need to be OBEDEIENT and GODS FAVOR will follow us in ALL we say an do in HIM!Keep up the ENCOURAGEING WORDS! MAY THE LORD BLESS WITH HIS WISDOM DAILY AS YOU SEEK HIM! s
      Sincerely Evangelist Debra Pollak ..LIFE IN THE SPIRIT MINISTRIES

  2. If one prays, and believes in G-d the Father through Christ Jesus who was murdered, and rose from the dead for our sins, then all we have is of/from G-d, and we thank him everyday. This shows all we have, is not ours, but given to us.

    We will be given all we need, not always want we want.

    We forsake all, because our place Jesus prepars for us is better than anything we can have here on earth. Remembering that is the problem.

  3. This is a very good post Marianne. I can feel my friends and what family I have left keeping me at a distance because I have taken my belief in Jesus a step further in choosing to actually follow the true sabbath (I get laughed at alot for this one-even by those who are christians) and now wanting to learn the Jewish Holidays and FORSAKING the pagan holidays. This happened just today with a friend of mine who had that “look” on her face that I was “crazy” to not celebrate christmas and choosing chanukah? instead; I was offering her my christmas plates.

    It is very hard and you really feel secluded.

    • I have often wondered about this topic of Christmas, and the Sabbath. So, I talked to a Dr. I report to about it.

      He agreed that Christmas was once a pagan Holiday, but we now rejoice in Christ’s birthday, and the gift he gave us. Therefore, he stated Christmas was no longer pagan.

      About the Sabbath. I listened to Dr. Kenneday out of Florida. He is now dead. He preached as long as we took one day a week to remember G-d took one day off after creating the heavens, and earth we were fine. He stated, there is no way to tell if Saturday is really the seventh day after creation, or any other day.

      I don’t know what to think sometimes. If the Universal Church had not persecuted so many people after telling everyone to worship on Sunday, we would still be worshiping on Saturday with the Jews.

      • Hi Leatherneck,

        Although Saturday is biblically correct, it should not matter which day someone worships God on. Ideally, they should do it every day.

        Paul explains that individuals may have their own way of doing observance unto God, and it is all good:

        Rom 14:5 One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day [alike]. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

        Rom 14:6 He that regards the day, regards [it] unto the Lord; and he that regards not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard [it]. He that eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he that eats not, to the Lord he eats not, and gives God thanks.

        We are not under the law, but of grace. With the holy spirit, there is liberty. With this liberty, we can worship God any time we want. With a heart willing to please God, we will do our best to obey him at the same time.

  4. Thanks for insightful expounding on it. Actually understanding the text is simple. For the listeners of Yeshua, they didn’t need to get elaborated on what is meant by ‘all’. It’s a simple narrative style.

    If I have to phrase it, it is something tautological.

    “So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsakes not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple, all that make you not fit to be my disciples.

    As Marianne wrote, what that involves is determined by each of the readers in their life as in the past as is now in the present.

    Like a camel, we have to get shrunken to be to go through the eye of a needle. We have to get things off from us. Things to tie us down – material, social, physical, soulical, etc. Yeshua welcomes anyone and they can come as they are, but as long as they hold on to things to big for the eye, they can’t get to Him – pleasure (including ‘life style), pride, power, power-hunger, power-monger, position, position, purpose (yeah, that thing which drives people nuts to follow a gospel according to Rick Warren), prosperity – did I leave any other word with p? How about passion, pennies, prostate, 😉

    • hi ounbbl

      sometimes you are funny, but still true.

      “P” could also mean potatoes….if I would eat less of them, I could fit better through the eye of the needle. 🙂

  5. Hi all,

    Yes, when Jesus said or says “Come follow Me!”, any hesitation, question, reason, condition or excuse not to follow immediately is unacceptable. The correct response is simply “Yes Master”. Can you wait for me to go and help bury my father who has just died…he is dead and being buried soon? No, let the dead bury the dead (for Christians should rejoice that their loveone is only asleep and has eternal life; so if one is dead, he is not saved, and the “dead in Christ” can take care of their own. Jesus did not like the word dead! He told them over and over, “He is not dead, he is only asleep”). Come follow me! Well, I am a man of much wealth and I first have to settle my estate, so can you wait on me (to do so)? I guess one of the worst responses to the question would have been, “why me, how can I help you?
    I think material things are Blessings from GOD when we praise HIM for them, and use them within HIS WILL. Likewise, we must thank GOD, JESUS and THEIR HOLY SPIRIT for all GODLY blessings as well, for any gifts or blessings we may receive from THEM, and use those within HIS WILL also.
    In short, you all are right…PUT GOD FIRST!…is the message.

    And like the man on the radio says…”…not a sermon, just a thought” (which is much better than if this is considered a sermon without a thought…which is surely not the intent).

    GOD Blesses…John

  6. Great post sister. All of it is so true.

  7. Philippians 3;8
    What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having the righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ-the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith.

  8. Another timely message….thank you Marianne

  9. Thanks for this post. My marriage of 25 years ended in a divorce 2 years ago. My ex-wife (55 yrs old) complained of ‘loss of family life’ as the family was too much Christ-focused. She said she wanted another man/husband.
    And she made sure that the kids hate me. ‘Honor your father and mother’ (Exodus 20:12) is anathema to my catholic ex-wife.
    I pray for her and the kids.

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