When Deliverance fails


It is heartbreaking, or it should be, when we pray for someone’s deliverance, and we see it fail.

What went wrong?

We try and try again, and it still fails.

Since there is no problem with Yahweh God, it is either the minister, the petitioner, or both.

Some ministers, due to pride, ignoring their own limitations, like to blame the petitioner, so they do not lose face with the congregation.

This makes things worse, since now they impose a spirit of guilt on the individual.

But then there are genuine ministers, totally committed, and it must be something amiss with the petitioner.

And the petitioner can make the same mistake of transferring the blame to the minister.

These failings and limitations on both sides have to be faced.

Also, understand that the longer the demon has been rooted in the person, the harder it will be to remove it.

Patience is needed, a lot of it, and a sense of long term commitment.

The deeper the demon is rooted, the more passionate and stronger the response has to be to remove it.

Below are some obstacles, in most situations, to deliverance I found, with their references.

Then, at the end is the ultimate effort that must come from the person, if all other obstacles are overcome, or not an issue.

This is just a few references. One can search and find more.

There is also a book called “Pigs in the Parlor” that is helpful.


Typical Issues blocking deliverance from other sources:



Frank Hammond’s book: Obstacles to Deliverance ( read book to understand more)


Lack of faith

Lack of spiritual discipline

Varying strength of demons

Conditions not met



Occult objects

Prior involvement in occult and false religions

Desire to be delivered




Self deception

Not understanding how Satan’s kingdom functions

Failure to seek the Lord’s battle plan

Lack of knowledge concerning deliverance

Learning from our failures

Fear and terror at the mention of demons, the devil or deliverance

Unbelief : there is no such thing as the devil or demons

Demons are real, but too powerful for us to confront

Deliverance is valid; however, it should be left to the experts

Christians cannot have demons

Demon have no activity in civilized countries

Demons will come back 7 times worse

Deliverance must never be done in public

Deliverance is just a matter of faith

Deliverance must be with (or without) manifestations

Deliverance and demonology glorify the devil, we should keep our minds on Jesus

Those who get involved in deliverance suffer personal attacks from the devil

Jesus did it all for us – we don’t need to fight




one can read and see the explanation for each item on list:

seals put there by witches

charmed objects

soul ties

retaliatory spirits – do them first

low level attacks

class action curses

repeated attacks

demonized dirt



Then there is the atypical reaction that should be the first action taken, not the last, to achieve freedom from your pain :

Go straight to the Lord and cry out for your freedom

At this point, it is between you and Yahweh of heaven,

And call upon me in the day of trouble; I will deliver you, and you shall glorify me. Psalm 50:15

Only the two of you exist in this moment.

Your surroundings are blurred, your focus is on your relationship with God, not a “procedure,” or whatever demon it happens to be.

Procedure is no longer relevant.

Your heart is bursting with pain, and you want your Father in heaven to heal you and comfort you.

Like a child crying out for its parent, in panic mode, where is my father? Please help me!

You cry out with all that is in your heart….all you want is Him.

You want to come home, to the One who loves you!!!

The righteous cry out, and the LORD hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles. Psalm 34:17


Conversation with man who was delivered from demon, without a minister.

He was a former satanic priest, was possessed, and wanted his life back.

I asked him on behalf of a lady I knew who had prayed multiple times for deliverance, but had not been successful.

His comments in white, mine in blue ( notice that I start out “procedure oriented” and we end up “relationship oriented”):

it was kind of mental/deep emotional …let me see if i can explain that though


she has been fighting this for the past year

it talks to me

so it manifests

her father is a mason

I think he had something to do with this

came to my website looking for help

you know how a child that is lost…. panics… and all the sudden they want to run and leap into their parents arms? the genuine want of that parent…and the panic…fear.. and well pain for me

i have spent 2 hours at a time rebuking it and it is just stubborn


i was at a point with it…laying on the bathroom floor…my chest feeling like it was going to split open….

so you were crying out to yahweh?

and i just had this meditation like feeling of running and leaping into God’s lap


that might be it then

wasn’t a ritual or anything…just running straight for Yah

literally like a child

general “procedure” for christians is to bind the demon, rebuke it and cast it out in the name of jesus….applying the blood and commanding the spirit

to leave

many times the subject is passive

but focus is on the demon, not yahweh

no ritual just a child.. no thought. .just fleeing to him…no questions….etc


so she has to do more on her part

people focus on the demon and talk to it…and it doesn’t matter…..

the relationship between you and Yah is the point


demons lie and toy with people

yes they do

they like to lie and make threats

so it is not the "procedure" it is the relationship with Yah

thank you


This is a great assurance, that Yahweh God is always there, when man fails us, and when we fail ourselves.

Go to Yahweh God, not man, and make your deliverance a beautiful, intimate experience.

Focus on Yahweh, the Father, and Jesus, Yahshua, the son of Yahweh, the channel through which the power of Yahweh flows. 

No one comes to the Father except through Him, and no one receives the Father’s deliverance without Him.

56 Responses to “When Deliverance fails”

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  2. 7~12~5998 (out of 6000) in the last days of this Earth Age.
    Yes, Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON!
    Pray NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1
    HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”

    Marianne, after all these years it’s WONDERFUL to read that you
    are now using the Names of the Father and Son, Yahweh and Yahshua. I just finished reading the book “Night” by Elial Wiesel who just passed away at 87. In it he describes how he and the other Jews in Hungary deceived themselves about the dangers that they were in from the Nazis. Personally, I believe that we also bless the Jews when we read about their triumphs and tribulations. Another work is the film “Woman in Gold” which describes other Jews’ experiences in Austria during that time and this.
    We do not really know how similar the powers that be now are to the time of the Nazis. However, I DO have an inkling. Everything we think we know now can be uprooted and turned over by tomorrow morning! The government staged police shooting hoax in Dallas occupies the news now (YouTube). However, the killings of individual blacks in cold blood are REAL. It does remind me of the Nazis killing Jews in Germany.

    We CAN have deliverance immediately (NOW!) by praying to Yahweh asking to believe in His Son Yahshua. But the REAL question is : Will we choose to do so ?


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      i think there is a general notion that others more spiritual than us have do all the praying. this limits what Yahweh can do.

      also, I think I have mentioned this before, I want to reach as many as possible and language is important…..I will try to use the terminology they understand, which may not always be correct, but for them, it gets the message across.

      there is only one true God, and he has a name, Yahweh….when more people understand this, it will make writing easier…..right now many are deceived into thinking, for example that allah is just arabic for god, but allah is a false god….I will never use that term, or accept it as a substitute for Yahweh.

      the satanic priest that got saved used the term Yah, which is also recorded in scripture, and easily conversed with me using Yahweh as well.

      surely if the devil’s servants know who Yahweh is, the christians should know as well.

      thanks for always being such a blessing here

      • Marianne, thank you for the beautiful comment! When I turned to Yahweh and His Son Yahshua (in the early 1970’s) I turned my back on the names of Christian deities. I was not sorry then and I am happy that I did it THEN. The idol name Allah is the name of a pagan moon goddess. Lord is a direct translation of the idol name Baal, the chief pagan deity of ancient Babylon. The pagan names of idols ALKL have their sources. Yahweh says to NOT have any of THEM before HIM. HalleluYah!

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  4. Well, i think other reasons why deliverance fails, is as the result of people failing to break and breaking covenants that they had with demons, and humans respectively. COVENANT WITH DEMONS Any involvement with secret societies ,is a covenant with demonic powers. And those that have been, and are in it, can bear me witness that there are vows or ouths taken through words. These words verse as agreement (covenant)with the devil. The devil uses these words again one to stop his or her deliverance. COVENANT WITH MAN Some have been carrying there problems from one place to the other with no solution because they broke faithful agreements made by exchanging and sharing of water,garments,words,and most especially blood. Powers of darkness hold on these to aflict and hinder people’s deliverances. When one breaks the heart of another,not considering the covenant and the decree of that individual, will stand as a storming block to his or deliverance. People have to work towards these things in order to recieve their deliverance.thank you.

    • Komba

      what you say is true, and these things have to be overcome before one cries out to god for deliverance. repentance and forgiveness comes first.

  5. Demons are attached to anything in your home. Nibiru and Isaiah 24 (Jardalkalataol.blogspot.com) then to “Santa’s, Fallen Angels, Demons, CERN, Revelation, October to February (11 pages).

    However, when it comes to issues of Autism such as Asperger Syndrome, it is not demon possession that causes the issues, but it is a communication disorder.

  6. Good information, will follow with reading in detail and with prayer as two of my children (from the same father) seem to be attacked a lot and the Adversary uses one in particular to get to me. Will write you.

  7. Every one far everyone near. . .come close behold our God




    You are holy
    You are righteous
    You are one of the redeemed
    From God’s Own heart You are God’s very own
    Set apart a brand new heart You are free indeed

    Embrace it love it hold it close
    It’s all You God
    Your Life and Love in me

    it is all God alone!

    When you see it, you see it. . .and then you can enjoy it!

    Jesus said. . .”that you may behold My Glory. . .so that My Joy may be made full in you!”

  8. Jesus said that you cannot put new wine in old wineskins.

    Renovations often require the removal of the old before we can build the new. Spiritual transformation is no different. Sometimes old beliefs first have to give way in order to make room for new ones, or we might say THE RIGHT ONES!

    To solve my following discussion quickly I will come to my final conclusion first. . . . . . . . . the bottom line in all of 23,000+ verses in the Old Testament there isn’t a single verse that confirms the belief in God punishing people forever in some place called HELL.

    God never once in the Old Testament warned humanity of this supposed impending fate of a HELL.

    Upon Christianity’s assertion that the Bible is divinely inspired and infallible, (means you are supposed to accept and believe it)… Where is it written that God had a place for eternal damnation?
    How illogical and unreasonable this would be if the doctrine of an eternal hell were true, if it was never mentioned?
    But maybe God apparently chose instead to conceal “HELL FROM US” for some 4000 years, until Jesus arrived to tell us… But by the way even after 4000 years Jesus as seen in the New Testament never threatened humanity with an eternity of punishment in hell.

    One must wonder why the Spirit of God didn’t even inspire Paul to say that the wages of sin was HELL, an eternal place of punishment in the eyes of fundamental Christianity.
    That of course would only work if Hades means an eternal HELL. (BUT hell,hades,sheol means the figurative location where most of mankind sleep in death)..
    Let’s see clearly now, “death” is virtually meaningless as a punishment for sin if one is going to be “resurrected” out of death according to the New Testament and then judged again after death and now be punished in hell for eternity.

    That would be the true punishment and yet apparently Paul doesn’t find any ambiguity with Romans 6:23 apparently which states only: “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”.
    The fact is that the man, Paul, many recognize as the greatest Christian theologian, NEVER ONCE mentions HELL in any of his New Testament writings. That is quite an omission considering most Christians believe that he wrote 13 or 14 books in the New Testament. You would think that he would be inspired to warn his readers at least once in those books about the possibility that they were going to burn forever in HELL if they didn’t take the appropriate action. “Death” you see, was the final wages of sin, not everlasting punishment in HELL. . . .according to Paul !

    I started out with the premise that it was really inconceivable that God would not warn humanity of its impending punishment in HELL for all of eternity right out in the beginning of the history of mankind but clearly that never occurred. The Bible is silent when it comes to the issue of eternal punishment,)ETERNAL PUNISHMENT DOES NOT EXIST FOR GOD) NOT at the beginning of the Bible. . .and nowhere in the Old Testament.. . . and NOT with Jesus or even Paul. . .is there a mention of eternal HELL fire !

    SO THEREFORE BELIEVE God is indeed the “Savior of ALL” men, and SALVATION has nothing to do with being rescued from some place called HELL !
    You can’t find that view of salvation anywhere in the Old Testament. When we get to the New Testament, some very inconsistent and horrendous translating problems occur, with many words !
    There is a false impression creayed that Jesus threatened humanity with everlasting punishment in some place called HELL or the lake of fire.

    When we properly understand SALVATION as Jesus, and others taught it in the Bible, we discover that it is all about being set free from our ego or carnal mind (“OTHER INFLUENCES AND INTENTIONS”) as Paul calls it so that we can live a joyous, free, liberated and whole life.

    It is the ego or carnal mind that continually interferes with us from living a life of purity, joy, abundance, etc. and it is only with the understanding that it is God’s Life and Love in us (HIS TRUE LOVE).

    “That falling in love with God” which gives us His heart and soul desire to be all of Him and to be HIS TRUE LOVE . . .and that directs our ways into all truth.

    Matthew 22:36-37 “Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.”

    We could translate 1st Timothy 4:10 in the following way: “God is the Saviour of all men but believers experience salvation to the highest degree.”

    If all men are not saved than there is no reason for a superlative to describe believers. Paul would simply say “God is the Saviour of all believers.”—

    ALL men are indeed saved by God but there is something special or more abundant for those who know this and are classified as believers.

    What might that be?


    “That you may behold My Glory. . .and that My Joy may be made FULL in you” !

    Believers who know that God. . . experience an awareness and understanding of God that far exceeds those people who don’t have that awareness.

    They delight and enjoy GOD’S VERY LIFE AND LOVE, HIS HEART AND SOUL right now in this lifetime. Their carnal minds and egos are overcome by being captured by TRUE LOVE! NOTHING ELSE WILL SATISFY!.

    The dysfunctionality that most humans experience can be replaced by joy, peace, love, compassion, gentleness etc. One can tap into the divine mind and heart and soul of God, into divine consciousness and be able to experience divine creativity within themselves.

    Radical forgiveness can become a reality in our lives, even to the point of forgiving those who may intend to kill us.

    Summing it up, we can experience salvation or wholeness as we prosper in body, heart,soul and spirit. . . IN GOD’S TRUE LOVE!

    Or to state it a little differently… we can experience oneness with God to the degree that Jesus did ! And out of that oneness, we can experience oneness with all of humanity.

    To conclude, in the Bible we are told that God is love. We are also told that love never fails. To honor God we become so honored. . .when we value God. . .we become so so valuable. To be in His Life, in His Love we find the true treasure !

    Therefore God’s Life and Love never fails. If that is true, how then can billions be lost forever ?
    “The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some think of slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to repentance.” 2nd Peter 3:9

    What is “repentance?”
    Simply put, it is transformation that comes about by turning our thinking around all together and aligning our thoughts with God’s thoughts, our actions with God’s actions.

    It is becoming one with God. It is becoming the very image of God,and living according to His Heart and Soul
    Have you been taught about a God who is NOT WILLING that any should perish but will in fact, punish most of his creation eternally in some place called HELL?

    If so, you have been taught about a God who fails and if I may be so bold, fails miserably. Billions will be lost according to Christianity’s current beliefs. Billions will spend an eternity being punished by the God who created them.

    The God who is not willing that any should perish will in fact lose billions and punish them forever. The God who says that good shepherds don’t settle for 99 out of 100 sheep but go find even one that is lost.

    Jesus wasn’t telling anyone that the God who tells us to forgive seventy times seven and is said to have everlasting mercy and who will not settle for 99 out of 100 sheep but will go find the lost one, was threatening humanity with an eternity of punishment in HELL.

    Jesus was however, telling us to take stock of how we live our lives. He was warning people who thought they were spiritual but truly weren’t, to rethink how they were living SO they could turn to God and enjoy the unsurmountable blessings “with God”.


    • hawaii

      what happens to the unrepentant wicked when they die?

      jesus died and saved us from something or somewhere

      the location and the length of time is debatable….but it must exist in some form, or jesus would not have gone to such a deadly extreme to save us from it

    • HawaiiOhanaHope says:
      To solve my following discussion quickly I will come to my final conclusion first. . . . . . . . . the bottom line in all of 23,000+ verses in the Old Testament there isn’t a single verse that confirms the belief in God punishing people forever in some place called HELL.

      What about these 30 plus verses that says hell. They must not be in your Bible because you have a corrupted Bible that does not have the verses of Hell in it.

      Deu_32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
      2Sa_22:6 The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;
      Job_11:8 It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know?
      Job_26:6 Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering.
      Psa_9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
      Psa_16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
      Psa_18:5 The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.
      Psa_55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.
      Psa_86:13 For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.
      Psa_116:3 The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of hell gat hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow.
      Psa_139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
      Pro_5:5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
      Pro_7:27 Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
      Pro_9:18 But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.
      Pro_15:11 Hell and destruction are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?
      Pro_15:24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.
      Pro_23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
      Pro_27:20 Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.
      Isa_5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
      Isa_14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
      Isa_14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
      Isa_28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
      Isa_28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
      Isa_57:9 And thou wentest to the king with ointment, and didst increase thy perfumes, and didst send thy messengers far off, and didst debase thyself even unto hell.
      Eze_31:16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.
      Eze_31:17 They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.
      Eze_32:21 The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by the sword.
      Eze_32:27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.
      Amo_9:2 Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:
      Jon_2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
      Hab_2:5 Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:

    • Hell/Eternal Damnation

      Retribution for Sin:
      Retribution for sin is a cardinal point in the teaching of both the Old Testament and New Testament. The doctrine of judgment, again, in the New Testament, with Christ as judge, turns on this point. The following passages are decisive: Isa_3:10, Isa_3:11; Mat_11:22, Mat_11:24; Mat_12:41, Mat_12:42; Rom_2:5, Rom_2:12; 2Co_5:10; Gal_6:7, Gal_6:8

      The doctrine that the punishment of sin is everlasting is sustained by many plain testimonies of Scripture.

      Old Testament and Jewish Conceptions:
      The doctrine of future punishment is not prominent in the Old Testament, where rewards and punishments are chiefly connected with the present life. In a few passages (Psa_49:14, Psa_49:15; Psa_73:18, Psa_73:19; compare Isa_24:21, Isa_24:22; Isa_66:24), Dr. Charles thinks that “Sheol appears as the place of punishment of the wicked” (Eschatology, 73-76, 156). If so, there is no suggestion of escape from it. In Dan_12:2, some that sleep in the dust are represented as awaking to “shame and everlasting contempt” (the word for “everlasting” is the usual one, ‛ōlām). In the Jewish literature of the century before Christ, “Sheol is regarded,” says Dr. Charles, “as the place of final eternal punishment, that is, it has become hell” (op. cit., 236).
      Other words are Hades and Gehenna.

    • Hawaii, it’s about WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING which Yahweh gives abundantly to ALL who ask Him for it! Yes, there is “The Lake of Fire”. It appears in connection with the Second Resurrection (known as The Resurrection of the Wicked). All who “are not written in The Book of Life” are judged and thrown into it. They will burn until CONSUMED (NOT forever!)
      Before this happens each one will see WHY they are being judged and why they can’t go to Heaven.The length of their burning is based on the number of sins committed in their life. (There was a corruption in the translation from the Hebrew for the word “forever’.)



    It is amazing to me how MOST WILL FIGHT TO KEEP THE HELL and little effort to fight for God’s wonderful Love and Salvation!


    I got the next information from :

    Question: If indeed God warned mankind about “hell” then we should be able to find the Hebrew word in the Old Testament that means a place of eternal punishment. The simple question is — What Hebrew word would this be?

    Answer: I learned a new word not too long ago. That word was sciolism (sigh-o-lism). It means superficial. The sciolistic (superficial) answer to our question would have to be “sheol.” There is no other possibility. If you open up a Strong’s Concordance and look up the word “hell,” you will find that “hell” appears in 31 verses in the Old Testament in the King James Bible. In every single case, the Hebrew word translated as “hell” is “sheol,” number H7585 in the Strong’s numbering system. There is no other Hebrew word translated as hell so it would appear that this is the word that we are looking for. But is it?

    Strong’s tells us that the Hebrew word “sheol” actually means the “world of the dead.” Please note that there is no mention of eternal punishment nor is this defined as a place where only the unrighteous, unholy, and evil go. It is simply the world or place of the dead regardless of one’s character, morality, etc. Finally Strong’s tells us that sheol is translated in the King James Bible three different ways, “ grave, hell, and pit.”

    Using the King James Concordance in the free E-Sword program available on the internet, we find out that the Hebrew word “sheol” actually appears 65 times in the Old Testament. It is translated as hell 31 times, grave 30 times, pit 3 times and grave’s once.

    Grave and pit seem very similar but there is sure a lot of difference between the fundamental version of hell and either grave or pit. In Psalm 9:17 the translators of the King James Bible have no problem placing the wicked in hell. However in Genesis 37:35 Jacob talks about departing this life and going to sheol so in this verse we read grave. In Psalm 88:3 David talks about his life coming to an end and him going to sheol. Again, the translators used grave in this verse because we certainly can’t have King David going to hell. This shows the difficulties the translators had with this word, sheol, and how they jumped back and forth from hell to grave. I would suggest that the confusion could have been avoided if they had simply stuck to the definition that Strong’s provides. The confusion is evident when we look at other translations of the Bible. The New KJV translators dropped 12 references to hell in the Old Testament. In fact, the New International Version translators dropped every reference to hell in the O.T. as did both the American and Revised Standard Versions. Many don’t know it but there are several Bible translations that do not mention hell in the Old Testament and some versions don’t mention hell at all, in either the Old or New Testaments.

    Perhaps the most significant non-use of hell is in the 1917 Jewish Publication Society Bible which would be called the TaNaKh and would contain what Christians call the Old Testament. This is the Bible that many in Judaism would use. Hell NEVER appears in this version. It would seem that the Hebrew scholars who translated the JPS Bible didn’t think hell was a viable or proper translation for “sheol.”

    So what is this pit,this grave,this hidden place ?
    It is a place where there is no body. . .and without a body you can not interact with the world, with your friends, with your loved ones. It is a place for the unseen. The greatest tragedy is you can not interact with God. . .and that can be a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth, because you are trapped ! BUT IT IS NOT ETERNAL FOR YOU. . .BUT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WHO DIE GO.

    God said in Isaiah 19:20 (which can give a clue to God’s intention for all man). . .”He will send them a Savior and a Champion, and He will deliver them.” . . . and in Isaiah 19:22( God continues). . .”He will respond to them and will heal them.”
    This is God’s answer for the the dead, the sinful , the condemned, the wicked, the evil, the unrepentant, all the lost ! HE WILL HEAL THEM!

    Now you may say it is unfair and not true justice. . .but who is anybody to argue with your God?!




    when you see. . .you see. You see God!

    In Jewish tradition, the Tree of Knowledge OF Good and Evil and the eating of its fruit represents the beginning of the mixture of good with
    evil (the leaven). Before that time, the two were separate, and evil had only a nebulous existence in potentia (POTENTIAL of INFLUENCE) .

    The Original Sin was a desire, a thought outside the PERFECTION OF GOD ( what is there outside the Perfection of GOD? ) DEATH ! God said, ”I have made the destroyer. . .to be destroyed ” .
    So who is the destroyer. . .it is only a desire, a thought.
    Who had the first desire ,thought? Lucifer. . .who fell and became Satan.

    It is not real , its realm is only a desire or thought. That is why God said “bring all high and lofty thoughts to the Knowledge (THOUGHT) of God…and bring everything into captivity to the obedience (PERFECT WORK) of Christ.

    So if a desire or thought (the destroyer) brings death and destruction. . . we are taught to resist the roaring lion and it will flee. Resist the desire or thought and it will flee. Therefore it is only real when it is made real by us.

    In all cases, when we attached our very self into the desire or thought makes it real, but apart from us it is nothing. The very existence of the very destroyer (a desire or thought) is ominous only because of You and Me accepting the desire or thought .

    The destroyer occupier is reliant on someone’s SELF and the imprinting the desire or thought . Death is profiting, at least for a time by lifting self up. Self reliance, self independence, self performance, self achievement, self success and self fortune. . are apparently only to disguise its definite doom.

    Apart from God. . . Out of the dependence on God. . .there is nothing!

    Departing from what is PERFECTION, all that is the make-up of God. . .all that existed by God and God. . . leaves nothing.

    Sensationalizing a terminal reality of. . .What will I get what I will do. . . I will be . . .I will be like God leads only to a final DEATH and DOOM.

    God said, ”If you eat from that tree. . .you will surely die ”.

    While free choice was freely given to eat from all the trees in the garden, but the desire for eating the forbidden fruit, was not ,

    That which was outside of God is naturally forbidden, it is DEATH…NATURALLY NON-EXISTENT.

    Therefore, even though, the very thought of being outside of God, IS DEATH ITSELF. This non-existent, this evil did apparently get placed in the reach of man, even though it was an entity separate from the human psyche,

    God said, ”Who told you. . .you were naked ? ” .
    Even though, AN EVIL THOUGHT was not in human nature or the desire of it. They did. This evil was Humans DOOM.

    Humans were made in the image of God for God. with God, by God . . .whole and complete (all together beautiful ,without flaw) PERFECT.



    Death then in desperation for existences purported A Likeness of God
    “I will be a reality” a “Likeness” even if it was truly only an aberration, a fraud, A ROBBERY, a counterfeit antistasis to God. . . became real by the demand that it was real by the very denial of the very (needed ) Life Source of “God”, Himself !
    (nothing can exist apart from God!). “Likeness” is not the real thing! The greatest deceit! God said “if you eat of the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil , you shall surely DIE!

    He made us…We belong to Him…You are MINE!!!! Says the Lord.
    We should always walk in an attitude of Teshuvah,
    The Apostle John wrote in his first epistle: “If we TURN TO GOD, He is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1st John 1:9) Rejoice in the Lord always… Again I say Rejoice… Let your forebearing Spirit be known to all men……. THE LORD IS NEAR…be anxious for nothing but in everything with prayer (need and dependence on Him) and supplication (lift your eyes, your hands, your hearts) with thanksgiving let your requests be known to God and the peace of God which surpasses all understanding will guard your heart and mind and be with you in Christ Jesus, Who Loves you. . .God’s People. You and me.

  10. How Government Officials Deceive Themselves to Deceive the Public 😛


    God IS this LAKE OF FIRE!

    “He shall judge the world with RIGHTEOUSNESS” (Psalm 96:13)
    “Because He [God] hath appointed a day, in which He will judge the world in RIGHTEOUSNESS” (Acts 17:31)

    God consumes with fire, the wood, hay and stubble, the “works of the flesh”, burned clean and pure by the consuming fire of God’s Holy Spirit!
    The things that don’t deserve to continue are forever consumed by the Fire, “The Righteousness of God”, and forever tormented (restrained in Hebrew) and that means forever destroyed.

    But God REFINES the gold, silver, and precious stones (ATTRIBUTES AND THINGS OF GOD).

    1 Corinthians 3:11-15New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
    11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one that has been laid; that foundation is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 the work of each builder will become visible, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each has done. 14 If what has been built on the foundation survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If the work is burned up, the builder will suffer loss; the builder will be saved, but only as through fire.

  12. WOW. . .SAY WHAAAAAT?!
    See this :
    During the years around 1871 the original representative American Republic was usurped by banking interests and others to create a separate and different government, a corporation (the UNITED STATES Corporation). THIS POSES AND ACTS AS OUR CURRENT GOVERNMENT. . . IT IS A FRAUD. . .AND HAS HIJACKED US! This fraud has to be exposed. . . know about it!
    The UNITED STATES Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial Law rather than the common law (our Constitution)Private Law. The rewritten UNITED STATES corporate Constitution subverted our original Constitution for the United States of America. . .and has for over a hundred years! THE FRAUD STILL IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW!
    In other words, our Constitution was placed UNDER the Corporation and its rules, as opposed to over the government. THEY LAUGH AT US EVERYDAY. . .WHEN WE WONDER WHAT IS GOING ON!
    This explains why our Congressmen and Senators no longer answer to the People, the President can write unlawful Executive Orders and the judiciary can make unconstitutional rulings(which includes all of the fraudulent agencies). They are following corporate laws that completely strip Americans of their God given unalienable rights!
    America has been HIJACKED. . .corrupted and “OWNED BY A PRIVATE CORPORATION”
    The problem isn’t just the judicial system running hopelessly amok. It’s the fact that all so-called “governments” are actually nothing but privately owned and operated “governmental services corporations” being run by international banking cartels that have operated under conditions of secrecy and deceit to co-opt lawful government and instigate a vast web of fraud and criminality throughout the world. It’s not just the Federal United States. It’s the “government” of the UK, CANADA, FRANCE, GERMANY, AUSTRALIA, JAPAN….. all fakes. All following their own corporate rules in direct opposition to us.


    Luke 20:9 “A man planted a vineyard, and leased it to tenants, and went to another country for a long time. 10 When the season came, he sent a slave to the tenants in order that they might give him his share of the produce of the vineyard; but the tenants beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 11 Next he sent another slave; that one also they beat and insulted and sent away empty-handed. 12 And he sent still a third; this one also they wounded and threw out. 13 Then the owner of the vineyard said, ‘What shall I do? I will send my beloved son; perhaps they will respect him.’ 14 But when the tenants saw him, they discussed it among themselves and said, ‘This is the heir; let us kill him so that the inheritance may be ours.’ 15 So they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16 He will come and destroy those tenants and give the vineyard to others.” When they heard this, they said, “Heaven forbid!” 17 But he looked at them and said, “What then does this text mean:

    ‘The stone that the builders rejected
    has become the cornerstone’?

    18 Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces; and it will crush anyone on whom it falls.”

  13. Jesus Christ is the “Lamb who takes away the sin of the world.” He is the promised Messiah of whom the prophets of the Old Covenant foresaw; Jesus is the Savior of the world, He is the “Second Adam,” through Whom all mankind will be restored to God’s original image, He is the only way to the Father, the only begotten Son of God Who gave His Life for the world (HE GAVE HIS LIFE,HIS LOVE to us).

    We believe He is King and Ruler of the universe, and owner of all Creation, and that His purpose for the ages (ions) is to bring ALL things under His government and reconciled with Himself to God. . .and God’s WILL, will be done.

    We believe that through His death, burial and resurrection, Jesus will save all mankind and restore all things. As Christ Himself said, “If I be lifted up (crucified.but more importantly raised from the dead) I will draw all men to me” (as also prophesied in Psalm 22).

    Jesus is the Name before which every man, woman and child, from all of human history will bow before and declare that He is Lord. At that day, the prophesied “restoration of all things” shall come to pass, and of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end.

    If we transcend out of ourselves, to the heavenly, to the resurrected Christ and walk in the Spirit of God, His Life and Love in us. . .we become His very Life and Love, and then naturally ,how we are suppose to be. . . we impart the Power of God, His Life and Love to the world.

    In all truth, none of our concepts of hell, that it is an eternal torment and torture from a Just God cannot be found in the teaching of Jesus Christ ! For Jesus came not to condemn the world but to raise up all to Himself, to heal, give Life-HIS LIFE,HIS LOVE to us and return all that is God’s to the fullness of God. It has been the distortion of churches (and as you might say money grabbing corporations) who have usurped the true message of Jesus Christ so to corrupt God’s GOOD NEWS and keep man from God’s SALVATION- WHO IS JESUS-WHO IS THE FULLNESS OF GOD!

    Now if God is true and His Life and His Love is in you. . . then anyone can just see. . .( every liar, thief , crook, vermin, skunk, murderer, and even you and me). SALVATION IS FOR ALL. . .so, open your eyes, your ears, and your heart (anybody, anyone) and see if God will not change you. . . to who you already are HIS LIFE AND HIS LOVE. HE IS ALREADY IN ALL OF YOUR SELF . . .BE WILLING. . .CUZ THAT IS WHO YOU ARE. . .THAT’S WHO YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE. . .GOD’S VERY OWN.




  14. The thing is Yeshua has already conquered. As Second Adam He already took the keys back from satan; Yeshua overcame satan as Second Adam taking back from him the authority that Adam first relinquished back in Eden. Adam’s DNA, was perfect. Just think about it, a body with DNA without mutations of any type; no disease and the ability to heal itself and live on, quite possibly not even affected by time and space just as Yeshua’s body was upon His resurrection.

    Yahveh gave Adam authority over all things, Gen 1:26, 28, but that authority was relinquished. Now that same authority has been taken back by Yeshua who is putting all of Yahveh’s enemies at Yahveh’s feet, Mat 22:44; Mark 12:36; Luke 20:42-43.

    Yeshua was tempted as Second Adam, same as the first one was, only He did not succumb and unlike Adam withstood the enemy. We are more than conquerors through Yeshua Ha Mashiach, Rom 8:27. So what is holding us back? Why aren’t we stepping on the promise? Lack of faith? Fear? What? We are told we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities in high places, Eph 6:12. We are also told the battle is not ours but Yahveh’s (2 Chr 20:15) and asked that if He is with us who can be against us, Rom 8:31. Then there is the covenant that Yahveh made with Abraham; He was and is the one keeping it yet Abraham, who followed Torah (Gen 26:5), received those blessings by faith, Heb 11:8, Gen 15:6.
    Maybe we are not really listening WHEN He tells us to move into the promise land and face the giants, Num 14, and like Israel did in the wilderness later try to go on our own strength when He is not telling us to do so and get defeated winding all discouraged. Our spiritual ears need tuning and we, as those in covenant with Yahveh, must do as Abraham did and follow Torah the way Yeshua showed us to. We need to get ready to move in the wilderness when He says “GO”. Shabbat shalom

    • I agree.

      many do not know their authority in Yeshua, and this causes their problems.

      I hope and pray more people come to know this.

  15. Acts 2 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
    17‘In the last days it will be, God declares,
    that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh,
    and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
    and your young men shall see visions,
    and your old men shall dream dreams.
    18 Even upon my slaves, both men and women,
    in those days I will pour out my Spirit;
    and they shall prophesy.
    19 And I will show portents {a sign} in the heaven above
    and signs on the earth below,
    blood, and fire, and smoky mist.
    20 The sun shall be turned to darkness
    and the moon to blood,
    before the coming of the Lord’s great and glorious day.
    21 Then everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.’
    ‘He was not abandoned to Hades {SHEOL-THE GRAVE OF DEATH},
    nor did his flesh experience corruption.’
    333 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you both see and hear.
    “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins may be forgiven; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you, for your children, and for all who are far away, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to him.” 40 And he testified with many other arguments and exhorted them, saying, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”

  16. Not Peace, but a Sword. . .

    When Jesus said to repent, He was saying Teshuvah- “come back to God, return to the fullness of God. . . His “Life and His Love in you and me”!

    God is already in His miracle of Life, by your very existence.
    Our “sin” is not acknowledging God and “His Life and His Love in us! ”

    So you can exactly say, “ sin is NOT KNOWING WHO YOU ARE”. . . God’s very own. . . “His Life and His Love ! ” In us.

    Matthew 10:34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth;
    I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
    35 For I have come to set a man against his father,
    and a daughter against her mother,
    and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
    36 and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household.
    37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me;
    and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38 and whoever does not take up the cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Those who find their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will find it.!

    To take up cross. . . means. . . to take up and be devoted to the results from the cross. . .GOD’S LIFE AND LOVE!

    Not peace. . . means. . .Jesus will not leave you to your same old life of the world!
    But to bring the sword. . .means the overflowing of the power of God to transform everyone back to the Fullness of God, “His Life and His Love ! ”

    Acts 3 19 Repent therefore, and turn to God so that your sins may be wiped out, 20 so that TIMES OF REFRESHING may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Messiah appointed for you, that is, Jesus, 21 who must remain in heaven until the time of universal restoration that God announced long ago through his holy prophets.

  17. Hi Marianne,

    i will not tell you, the kid’s gender,

    i have a question, i have friends, they ask me to pray for their kid who fall in to same sex attraction. i keep praying for the kid daily for a while, recently,
    my friends told me that their child has a external deformity on the kid’s face or head, the kid will have a cosmetic surgery to fix it, suddenly, i felt one thing come into my mind that the deformity is God put in the kid’s life to protect the kid from more destruction. protect the kid from self obsessed narcissist, the deformity in some sense could be a good thing for the kid , so i told them to ask God, what do you think of my thoughts ? thanks !

    • how old is this child?

      it is possible that god placed a defect in the child to make him/her less attractive so that others would not cooperate with the same sex attraction or any inappropriate sex with others.

      also, if this is a very young child, then where did this same sex attraction come from? it is not something it is born with, but results from influences around it. parents? other children? teachers? baby sitters?

    • this come from another sister confirmation \

      I completly agree! I had a severe deformity in my body which God allowed me to have rectified a few years ago. I genuinely believe had I not had that deformity I would have gone a path that would gave been extremley destruction for example – sexual sin

      I feel that God allowed that deformity to protect me from going through a valley that He did not ordain in heaven for me to go down. He has the bigger picture. God allows us to go through trials and tribulations for his glory and also for our character to grow and for chastisement , however there are some dark valleys that He does not want us to go down.

      I hope this helps, Lots of love to you

  18. I agree Marianne. Homosexuality is all from spiritual influences, whether from the family or from others. It is a spirit of confusion or chaos (tohu, 8414) like the one shown in Genesis 1:2, as well as desire (lust) or covetousness (183, avah: to incline, desire, 2530, chamad: to desire, take pleasure in) to possess another person’s body of the same sex as their own body and identifying or transferring sexual desire to that person of the same sex. Covetousness is also a form of idolatry in the Bible.

  19. Knowing that Yeshua has taken back from satan the authority that Adam ceded Satan we must learn to stand in Yeshua’s authority and pray to the ROOT cause of all these things.

    • amen to that! 🙂

    • over 25 , yes, might be something happened to the person in childhood,
      the kid grow up in a wild city,(notorious } , felt the detect is a protection that God put in the kid , the kid want to have surgery and to pursue a job which the kid want. agree with you, had the thought but not many people agree . thanks for listening

  20. “This is the best site I’ve found on the Internet in 20 years of Internet surfing. After believing in hell for the better part of 48 years I’ve now discovered the Amazing Good News of the Gospel. At first I thought it was to Good to be true having been one to warn others about hell. I’ve now discovered that this indeed is a false doctrine as much as I tried to find fault that eventually all mankind shall be reconciled to God. Scripture no longer contradicts itself. Unbelievable how we the church have been blinded. The material and research on this site is fantastic. Thank God for people who dare to think against the grain. A Big Thank-you. God Bless you for such great news. This was so awesome I just bowed my head and thanked God. Truly the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the best news. God saves all mankind. How amazing. Truly God is Love. What peace fills my heart. Thank-you. “

    • mark

      thank you so much for your kind words.

      may god bless you always

    • 10~6~6000 (out of 6000) Second Day of Sukkot, Feast of Tabernacles
      Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON! Pray NOW to be
      SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1
      HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”

      Greetings Mark. Yes, Yahweh would save all of mankind if they choose to believe on His Son Yahshua for their salvation. Sadly, that is NOT happening! Yahweh is always merciful. Those who are reprobate and will not believe on His Son will burn (in The Lake of Fire) until consumed for the sins in their lives. Some a little, some much longer. There isn’t an always burning hell but there is a final burning. The wicked will have to pay for their own sins because they refused faith in the Yahshua, Lamb of Yahweh.
      It is not Yahshua AND Jesus Christ. The name Jesus Christ is the meaning in Greek of the #666, Revelation 13:18, Greek Diaglott, Free on The Web.

      It is Yahshua the Messiah OR Jesus Christ the pagan Greek idol!


  21. True, it is heartbreaking to see so many loved ones not walking in The Way, hurting both physically and worse, emotionally. The enemy has managed to fool us into thinking he can destroy us willy-nilly when in reality he is the one that needs to submit to the authority of Yeshua and does so when Yahveh tells him. Satan may be allowed to hinder us now but we must stand firm till the end. He is allowed to inflict us to test us, same as he will be allowed to do when he is let loose again after the 1000 years during which time those who meant well from the heart but where not properly fed Torah will sit at the banqueting table and eat the word. That is why Yahveh is now training some to be teachers later. Some are tried now, some will be tried at the end of the millennium. The second death will be their portion then if they fall for the adversary’s tactics of deception. Pray we all get it the first time around and stay on The Way.

    2 Corinthians 2:10-12 Lexham English Bible (LEB)
    “10 Now to whomever you forgive anything, I also do; for indeed, whatever I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, it is for your sake[a] in the presence of Christ, 11 in order that we may not be exploited by Satan (for we are not ignorant of his schemes).”
    2 Corinthians 12:7 (LEB)
    “even because of the extraordinary degree of the revelations. Therefore, so that I would not exalt myself, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan, in order that it would torment me so that I would not exalt myself.”
    1 Thessalonians 2:18
    “because we wanted to come to you—I, Paul, on more than one occasion—and Satan hindered us.”

    The adversary and his fallen angels mixed with mankind before the flood, and where do you think they are now? Causing havoc!

    Revelation 12:9 (LEB)
    “And the great dragon was thrown down, the ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world. He was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.”

    Satan has been crushed already and all of Yahveh’s enemies are being put under His feet.

    Romans 16:19-21
    “19 For the report of your obedience has reached to all; therefore I am rejoicing over you, and I want you to be wise toward what is good, but innocent toward what is evil. 20 And in a short time the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ[a] be with you.”

  22. copy from website
    Why did the newly-anointed Solomon ride on a mule, not a donkey or a mare?

    First, a definite answer. Solomon rode on a mule (1Ki 1:38) because his father David told Zadok, Nathan, and Benaiah to “cause Solomon my son to ride upon mine own mule” (v 33). This is the word for a “she-mule” (BDB, TWOT). Its three Old Testament uses are all in this passage (see v 44), referring to one mule, David’s. Solomon’s riding on David’s mule in company with David’s advisors gave a clear message: he was the successor David had chosen. Years later in secular history, female mules became preferable for riding and males for bearing burdens. That may have been a factor in David’s having this special mule.

    Second, an observation. David’s sons all rode on (male) mules (2Sa 13:29) and Absalom rode a mule at the end of his life (2Sa 18:9). Since a mule is crossbred between a mare and a male donkey, and since crossbreeding was prohibited in Israel (Lev 19:19), mules were likely imported (TWOT), and were thus more valued. They (along with horses, silver, and gold, etc.) symbolized the wealth that other kings brought to Solomon annually (1Ki 10:25).

    Third, a suggestion. The greatest reason for David’s choice of a mule rather than a horse may have been God’s prohibition for kings (Deu 17:16): they were not to multiply horses to themselves. David was careful in this. Solomon, to his own destruction, was not (1Ki 10:26, 28).

  23. Michael

    this is a carry over from another page. this page is more related to the topic.

    do not let the demons feel you are submitting to them.

    at each attack, you must reject, bind and say (at least speak to them) you cast them out in the name of Jesus /Yahshua. you must also DAILY plead the blood of jesus over you and declare you are redeemed

    also I understand the feelings for your deceased long time partner but you must also declare that you are repenting of the homosexual lifestyle, and it is now your past, not your current life now.

  24. My adult son who has severe ‘autism’ and I have been going to weekly group deliverance services for nearly a year since April 4,2018. I have gone through many intense deliverances apparently from legions of generational strongholds with extended screaming where I have lost my voice for days, violence, fighting to get away making it necessary to be restrained, biting, hitting, throwing the Bible, etc. Often with me and my chair ending up in the row behind us…As my son Sits calmly either beside me or with another minister. I am sure my minister is frustrated with the situation. Understandably so…but he often does not respond to my questions any more…which adds to my frustration…feeling abandoned. I am assuming he doesn’t have the answers… which is somewhat frightening.. feeling hopeless…’too far gone’ so to speak. I often feel he avoids me during these group services and Last night he reprimanded another minister for ministering to me… I know the enemy places negative thoughts and lies in my mind and has my entire 62 years of life. Deliverance has made me aware of this. I just came through a couple very bad weeks after 3 very good weeks… my minister had posted on his Facebook an article against my belief that vaccines can be a causative factor in my sons ‘autism’ … I commented that I felt he was disrespecting my son and me as well as many other vaccine injured people. He blocked me and unfriended me, texting me saying he would not have me commenting on his fb that he devalued our lives… but to me blocking me on fb IS devaluing our lives, severely limiting communication. He removed me from the ministry chat group the next week after I missed a deliverance service. These actions DEVASTATED me…the chat group was my connection to the ministry and my means of support…requesting prayer, etc.
    He unblocked e and sent me a friend request a few days ago, but has not restored me to the chat group. I feel alienated and disconnected from what was my church family… I am feeling abandoned, hopeless and discouraged… I had complete TRUST in my DELIVERANCE minister… and it has been decades since I had been able to trust anyone…sadly I have lost a lot of TRUST and respect for him. I have been able to move beyond the extreme OFFENSE I had been feeling toward him… regarding the vaccine-autism post and the blocking incident…but feeling abandoned and hopeless. The times these demons came screaming out I experienced some relief from oppressive tormenting thoughts and dreams… but weeks when he seems to pass me by and I get little to no deliverance… I feel agitated for sometimes weeks until I am able to get extreme deliverance again… I have had a lot of anger, animosity, hate feelings toward my minister… no one else, and I know it’s obviously the enemy. Because my feelings can change from these negative feelings to love, TRUST and respect…actually feeling the love of Christ through him… these feelings can literally change back and forth within minutes or even seconds… I am feeling hopeless and discouraged because of how long this is taking, all the ups and downs…compete oppression to complete peace and back and forth… and recent events… emotional healing required from the complete rejection and confusion I felt as a result of him blocking me and unfriending me…

    • Autism–A-Journey-Of-Hope

      At first, I thought the deliverance was for your son who had autism. But after reading, I seems like you have a deliverance need yourself.

      What is the name of this useless church?

      I do want to add somethings….remember that God is sovereign. sometimes he allows affliction for his own purposes, and he can make what the devil intended for evil, and change it to something good. so you are going through a test.

      this pastor is not god, so do not depend on him, or any human being for deliverance. this is a mistake most christians make, as the pastors teach dependency on them, to keep their congregation large for tithes, and to uphold his “authority.” or control over members.

      he has no anointing for this deliverance, and he never will, with his cold heart. get away from him. this pastor and church are toxic for you.

      do not let man’s opinion hurt you….what is important is that God loves you and wants both you and your son healed.

      this church is maybe not deliverance, but has good people there

      near orlando. they may be able to refer you to a better place near you.

      pastor dave palmquist used to work in deliverance…so he could be helpful…he is retired, but has been associated with this church, so contacting them might be helpful. they might know what he knows.

      also, it may not be your time yet….i have had medical problems for almost 20 years and yes I prayed for healing. one night recently, I dreamed I went to the emergency room at a hospital…I got checked in but not seen. others were taken but not me. This dream happened 3 times, and each time I was ever called. I got the point it was not my turn. ( I might post this dream here soon). but since I was checked in, it meant the doctor (God) knew I had come for help. He would get to me when the time was right.

      there is a lot of truth out there for vaccine related autism. My friend has an autistic child, so I am sympathetic. during certain years about 40 years ago, and even now, SV 40 (virus) was included in the vaccines, which increased the chance of autism and cancer. now they have added diethyl mercury as well, which is labeled as thimerisol, to hide the identity of the mercury. I keep up with scientific news, as my background is in biochemistry, and it is an interest of mine that has continued since I retired. this does not mean EVERY case of autism is related to vaccines, but there is a high correlation. Flu shots are dangerous also.

      stay home for while and get your peace back. you feel betrayed and disappointed, and god is allowing this to get you out of this man’s church.

      check around and find a nice, humble, godly church that can minister to both you and your son. you are under a lot of stress, and need this rest, instead of this church that just aggravates and adds to your stress. I understand the disappointment. I had a rotten pastor once too.

    • 3~21~2019 Purim First Day of Spring
      Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON! PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!’

      Dear Autism. I’m sad to read about your experience of illness with your son and lack of healing in that Christian church. Scripture may help you receive your desired healing.
      I also post publicly on Face Book with Bible verses and Natural Healing.

      James wrote this:
      “Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the assembly; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the Name of Yahweh. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and Yahweh shall raise him up; and if he has committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Confess your faults one to another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.” James 5:14-16 Holy Name Bible, Restored Name Versions

      This is what that minister SHOULD have done! We do this for ourselves as there isn’t any assembly here. We have a small bottle of olive oil near bedside. A cruet or bottle with eye dropper can be used. There are also MANY natural herbs and vitamins that provide healing. Marianne is right about vaccinations and flu shots. They are a BIG MISTAKE! YAHWEH HAS A NATURAL PATHWAY TO OUR HEALING!


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