Antichrist – who is he? – the secret is in the “mix”

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The Antichrist is a fierce end time ruler that leads a Beastly kingdom to control the world, and crush Israel. There are conflicting views about who he is, and what and where the beast is. So what do I say? The secret is in the “mix.”

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Symbolic images of the Beast, that supports the Antichrist:

Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The animals that represent the beast are defined by Daniel:

DAN 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.

DAN 7:5 And behold another beast, a second,  like     to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

DAN 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

Summary, so far:


The main body is that of a leopard: this is the revived Grecian empire, which is today the Islamic middle eastern and eastern countries


The feet are that of a bear – this represents the Medo-Persians – today this is Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Jordan, Russia (south), Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Ubekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan (?), Tajikistan, so the part that “moves” will be this part.


The mouth is that of a winged lion – this represents Babylon, ie Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Georgia, Jordan, Azerbaijan, Armenia (12). The hate speech and condemnation comes from here.


Notice above that almost the same countries are involved for each animal.


Daniel also adds a little more insight about the makeup. The beast is a kingdom, not a person. The antichrist is the head part of this beast. The beast has 10 horns, iron teeth and nails of brass:


Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.


DAN 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.


DAN 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;


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Integrating this with Nebuchadnezzar’s statue in Daniel 2 – the secret is in the “MIX”:


Babylon (Head of Gold); Medo-Persia (Arms & Chest of Silver; Greece (Thighs (from knee to hip) and Belly of Bronze); Rome (Legs of Iron); and future “Rome” mixed with other nations (Feet of Iron & Clay).


This is where some think that the last kingdom is Roman, and not Grecian. But look at this closer.


*** We should see that this kingdom is not European, or purely Roman. If we look today, Europe does not like to fight, even in the war against terrorism, which affects its own safety. Such a passive region is not the belligerent entity, the 4th Beast.


I admit this part is confusing, but we have to look at all scriptures before we form a conclusion. We have to remember that the maps of the ancient Roman (teeth of iron) and Grecian (nails of brass) territories overlap, to some extent, so this is a mixed kingdom with a new identity. The 2 legs represents 2 of the 4 divisions (legs) of the Grecian territory (which also happens to overlap with Roman land): East (Syria, king of the “North”) and South (Ptolemy/ Egypt, king of the South). This is explained in Daniel 8:21-22, with the vision of the goat and the ram.


I believe the Antichrist comes from the empire of Seleucus II Callinicus, son of the former king of the North (Antiochus II Theos) and the daughter of the King of the South (Ptolemy II Philadelphius). Antiochus IV Epiphanes, a descendant of Seleucus, is the one who performed the first abomination of the Temple in Jerusalem. I would not be surprised if the Antichrist came from this lineage.


*** This is a mixing of North and South. There was another mixing later when Cleopatra (South, Egypt) married the Syrian Ptolemy V Epiphanes (North).


We then have to take the rest of Daniel to see how mixed it is, and who is in it. In Aramaic, the translated word for “mix” is “ARAB.”


A more extensive explanation is given here:

http://www.bibleprophecyinthenews.com/Daniel_27s_20Scope_20of_20Prophecy_20does_20NOT_20include_20Rome_.pdf

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The antichrist’s relationship with the saints: he is their enemy


1. He persecutes them

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


2. he destroys them

Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.


3. he destroys their city and sanctuary

Dan 9:26 ….and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


4. He forms an alliance with others that allows him to desecrate the temple, and divide the land. There is no mention of a covenant of peace with Israel here, where the rights of the Jews or the sanctity of the Temple is respected.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


5. He is at war with the saints. He overcomes them.

Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.


Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nation


There is no evidence that he forms a peace treaty with Israel, only with others who will support him against Israel. Click here for more


Other descriptions of the Antichrist:


1. He is an egomaniac. Commits blasphemy, and prospers until wrath is complete. (Daniel 12:36)


2. He regards not the god of his fathers (Daniel 12:37-38), he honors the god of fortresses, and a god which his fathers did not know, he shall honor with gold and silver….this means either:


a. he is an atheist, but worships money

b. he is a convert from another religion

c. his parents come from different religions, and he uses the religion of his mother.

d. religious, but his religion is different from ancestors ( pagan or religious)

e. he is into worshipping aliens, which is not too unrealistic, since UFOs are being seen quite frequently now

f. he practices witchcraft

g. he is his own god


3. He shall not regard the desire of women (Daniel 12:37), this means either:

a. he is homosexual

b. he is so obsessed with power, he ignores the women he has.

c. he is heterosexual, but does not care about women, or what they desire, so he abuses them


4. His behavior is a repeat of his earlier forerunner Antiochus, and it seems to be history (Dan 11) repeating itself. The clue that it is a new event, as well as history, is that Jacob’s trouble, which occurs in the “time of the end” follows immediately in the next Chapter (Dan 12),. So, if we look at the history, and then look at modern events, we will find similarities which will help identify the Antichrist.


5. He has issues with both the king of the North (Syria) and the king of the South (Egypt), although he is from the North (Selucid empire). (Daniel 11) This may be why he has to forge a “covenant with many,” in Daniel 7, since he tends to upset other countries.


6. The beast he belongs to has 7 heads and 10 horns, and one of the heads is wounded, but gets healed. (Rev 13 1-3).


I wonder if this wounded head is Iraq, or Afghanistan. The terrorism has been wounded there, but may heal, and go back to terror, when the USA and the Coalition forces leave.


7. He is called an Assyrian


Isa 10:12   Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his WHOLE WORK upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria , and the glory of his high looks.

Isa 14:25   That I will break the Assyrian in MY land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

8. His Location

But remember he is also from the northern portion of the Seleucid empire (Daniel 11), which overlaps the Assyrian region

………….Assyria…………………………………Seleucid……………….

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So, the composite, restricted area, where the antichrist himself would come from, would be between the 2 blue lines on this map in the Seleucid portion:

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According to Daniel 8:9 the Antichrist, also called the “little horn,” comes from his location to attack Israel.

Dan 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed (grew) exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant [land].

Since he is moving or growing south-east “toward” Israel, he must be coming from the northwest of Israel. The only one I see northwest of Israel is Turkey. Am I reading this correctly? Even the country of Turkey looks like a head on a beast, and it is the only nation with a “horn.” There is an area on the “head” of the Turkey map that is called the “Golden Horn.”   If I am wrong here, then it is the opposite logic.

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The 7 heads (?):

From the combination map- within the blue lines: Syria, east Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, or Iran, Kuwait. (7 heads)

So what about the 10 horns?

From the Selucid map: Syria, east Turkey, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan. (10) ….if I am reading the map correctly.

· Jordan seems to be exempt. Daniel 11:41 says that Edom, Moab, and the people of Ammon escape from his (Antichrist’s – the “Assyrian’s”) hand.

Conclusion:

The Antichrist, according to scripture, is a leader from one of the modern Islamic Arab countries of the revived, ancient, Seleucid (Grecian-Roman) empire, with a following from the surrounding nations, that is forged through a multi-nation alliance (covenant) against Israel. He will be defeated by Jesus at the battle of Armageddon.

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See also:

What kind of covenant will the Antichrist really confirm? Click here for more

The 7 year End Time Covenant in Days and Years Click here for more.

The Goat and the 2300 Days. Click here for more

Jewish Return to Israel in the last days. Click here for more

General files for Antichrist: Click here for more


229 Responses to “Antichrist – who is he? – the secret is in the “mix””

  1. [...] he is, and what and where the beast is. So what do I say? The secret is in the “mix.” Click here for [...]

  2. Hi Marianne,

    The book “Days of Vengeance” by David Chilton (out of print, but free to read on the internet) is the most fascinating book I’ve ever read about Revelation. He explains it in a way that it all makes sense, and all is quite easy to understand. If it is “revelation” (not “confusion”), then we ought to understand it perfectly well.

    It’s worth a look!

    God bless,
    Paul

    • Revelation Means “Unveiling” it does not mean confusion. by the way the Book of Revelation contains the “Mass of the Catholic Church” do not be deceived by protestant works. The “Church” the Universal church is the Catholic church 2000 years old not some church that popped up by some man 20 50 or 300 years ago. Satan is trying to crush The Church of Jesus – His Bride as Jesus is the Groom. The Church will not fall. Also read Dr. Scott Hahn’s book of Revelation. Go to Mass and read Revelation you will see the Mass in the book of Revelation.

      • The church is Catholic only in that it is universal. The roman catholic church is another denomination that has strayed from truth as all “denominations” do when man puts rule above obedience. The true church, whether roman or protestant contains those who place their faith in Jesus alone, repent of their sins to God alone and make Christ their only priest and king. Those are the ones who will ultimately be God’s true sons and daughters because they obey His commands, not some popes dictates or preachers words. Turn your heart and life to Christ who alone can save. LORD bless ya.

  3. Thanks Paul,

    I will try to look for this book.

    blessings
    marianne

  4. Hi!
    i found a link, here it is…looks really interesting, & I really enjoyed your article, Marianne!

    http://freebooks.entrewave.com/freebooks/docs/2226_47e.htm

  5. Here’s another link…

    http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/1987_chilton_days-of-vengeance.html

  6. Sorry to be a pest, but found this interesting, too…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chilton

  7. Ok, now I’m likely bugging you, but I just had to post again, feel free to delete my links posted, above, if you’re so led…he’s a preterist (is that the right term? Believes the prophesies in the book of Revelation has been fulfilled)…
    …sorry ’bout that…
    ~Anastazia~
    (again)

  8. What do you make of the fact that the statue’s feet in Nebeccanezzars dream, made of iron and clay, would NOT mix? What does this mean? Have a great rest of the week! :)

    Daniel 2:42-43

    “And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile.
    As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay.”

    • I’d like to answer this as it seems quite obvious, from my point of view, it’s Muslims.

      They are spreading all over the world, like a virus, yet they can’t seem to get along so well with people when it comes to others’ beliefs.

      Don’t you think so?

  9. Hi Catrina,

    Just a thought:

    If “THEY” will mingle with the “seed of men (human),” then “THEY” cannot be human?

    blessings
    marianne

  10. hi Anastazia,

    You are not bugging me. :) Post all you want.

    Yes, I have had that book recommended by someone else as well. He sounds like a good author, and since the book is free, we should all take a look at it. Thanks for the links.

    blessings
    marianne

  11. Hey Marianne,

    This is David…..Catrina’s hubby..Anyhow I need help. I recently went to the local zoo and was shocked to see several Buddha statues. I made a complaint and they are currently taking a vote from KMBC News and the local papper whether or not it should be removed. To my understanding God does nike like Idols of any sort exspecially of
    Eastern religions. Anyhow can you please vote on both sites and sent this to who ever else you know will vote a Godly vote…Here are the 2 links

    God said not to make any idols over and over again in the Bible. He said to make No images of heaven above or earth below. Vote to remove the Buddha statues from the KCMO ZOO and maybe you can leave a comment in my defense. THANKS David Engle

    http://www.kmbc.com/news/18479668/detail.html

    http://www.kansascity.com/637/story/979947.html?pageNum=2&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

    Please get everyone you can to vote to remove the Buddha statues at the Kansas City Zoo.. The anti-Christ is in full effect as you can see in most of the comments left on these pages slander me..help me out…We need all the Godly votes we can get before this goes to the board for a vote..

    David

    Posted this in a couple spots around your site for more exposure- Thanks Marianne!!!

    • In regards to statues in church, remember when Jesus came, God showed his true self. Unlike false gods like buddah etc

  12. As always Marianne, great study and research.

    David from Kansas City (I went to kmbc news site and voted against Buddha statues at the Zoo). I agree.

    Brother In Christ…David (Shalom)

  13. Sections called Daniel 2:43 and Genesis 6:4 and Matthew 24:36-39. I would like to learn more about them perhaps.

  14. Hi Jacob,

    The verses you mention refer to the Nephilium that were the result of demons mating with women in ancient times. Demons have always been around since before man was created. Many of them were destroyed in Noah’s flood, but their disembodied spirits continue on to influence people.

    Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

    Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
    Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark

    The passage from Daniel also refers to the “Mixing.” If you look up the aramaic word for “mix,” the translated word is “arab.”

    blessings
    marianne

  15. Are nephilim not offspring of angels and women? I wonder if Greeks helped pervert history and wonder if Hercules is a nephil perhaps… perhaps we live on an interesting planet at an interesting time.

  16. Hi Jacob,

    Yes, you are right that they are offspring, and yes, this might be the source of much traditional “mythology.”

    I sincerely think there is some very sick stuff on this earth at this time. No, I cannot prove it physically, but from the behavior of some groups, it is not hard to imagine.

    blessings
    marianne

  17. and He will be cast into the lake which burn with fire forever and ever. AMEN!

  18. Hey Kwazy,

    That is what I like about you – short and sweet! AMEN to you too!

    blessings
    marianne

  19. Thanks. :). I’m glad you don’t make yours short like mine. lol

  20. I just finished reading Dr. David Jeremiah’s new book entitled
    “What in the World is Going On? He talks extensively about the image mentioned in the book of Daniel. He also gives his take on the feet of clay/iron.
    I would recommend taking a look at this book.

  21. Hi Noreen,

    Thanks for the recommendation. Dr.Jeremiah is a good teacher.

    blessings
    marianne

  22. I think the fourth Beast is America. All immigrants who come to gather in here, to escape thier countries, are not really here to escape but to be placed for that moment when the trumpet sounds, they will rise and turn agianst the nations who took them in. This is a Judas spirit.. all those countries such as Iraq, Islam you name it, it has extended to America.. and so on..will turn on us..some children are allowed to bring swords to schools..I think it is a matter of time when those teeth of Iron will cut people up into pieces..Beheadings. These threats are echoing through as of today..Even now Obama being president, who is to say…he isn’t part of it..but thats just a theory…no need to take me seriously..

  23. Oh and the word ( Mix ) on your topic..it is mixing people all together and different beliefs…I think in these days, spirits are awakened..by all kinds of chantings..people are more demonized today than ever before. Mixing ingredients can become deadly if you do not know whats in the mix…even in churches today, there are some witches, and warlocks, some are dragons having power over believers. In christ name, so ministers need to watch and pray at all times. This Dragon can control them. They are like snakes, and like reptiles, and they can transform into human beings. Some have healing powers, that only last a ew months and the healings have to be repeated..SO whats happening now is they are only stealing your energy, and you will feel bitter to Christ. But with a battle one can overcome it…I think…so its like mixing nations together..sooner or later they will develope hate causeing a dark energy to form..that is why so many churches fight agianst each other..cause each wants to be right all the time. No one accepts christ really if that is what they are doing. Always fighting over God, so we all do not have the same God if there is a war always on his behalf..this is why churches are weak..cause is bring that darkness into the church and many get sick, and not only that it is a place of demons now…mixing) I for myself do not trust the church no more…nor mankind. I think this world is hell..now..
    because man ruined it for all…by connecting the spider web to all the world and mixing all ingredents together. Now they are saying Jesus is the anti christ, look what people made him out to look like. Blond, blue eyed holly wood jesus. I feel so sorry for him. I really do..He deserves mercy and not sacrifice…
    People boast about knowing him all day long, and they make up an image of what he should look like. I know many follow him. I know he is truth, but that does not make man truth…
    I think God just wants true repentance, and does not want man living this life of paying bills, going to work for money, having big houses, stealing from the poor, taking the land for themselves and not allowing a poor man to sleep on any grounds that God made for man in the first place to rest his head and ejoy nature. Man takes Land and sells it, he has no room for a poor man to rest his head. No wonder the beast is here, man has created his image in thier minds causeing it to become real…

  24. Hi Brandy

    Good insight. You brought up spiritual and cultural mixings.

    blessings
    marianne

  25. Your comment at the end of point 5, that there is no mention of a peace covenant with Israel, is not accurate. As the scriptures describe Israel as living “without walls” (i.e. in safety) as well as the fact that the whole Heathen world calls out “peace and safety” (1.Thess.5;1-4)as a result of this peace that comes about by “the covenant” of Dan.9:27, But then comes “sudden destruction” for them, at Armageddon

    Likewise, your comment under your title, “other descriptions of the Antichrist”, and in point #2, where you quote, “He regards not the God of His Fathers” ( in Dan. 11:37-38, but misquoted as Dan.12;37…etc.) Ommits the fact in your points “A-to-G”, that the term “His Fathers” indicates that He is a descendant of Abraham, i.e. He is Jewish !!!
    The Bible is clear that the Antichris will be an “Assyrian Jew”, rising up from the small nation of Lebanon, which in the near future will be annexed by Syria, which will rise to prominence, and become the ruling power of the revived Grecian empire, as prophesied in the scriptures. (all of which refutes the “Revived Roman Empire” theory, falsely propagated by modern theology.)
    Visit my website, and get a copy of my book, “None Dare Call It Deception” and you can read all about it. I am the only author to have correctly predicted the “bosnian conflict” and the political fall of Russia, 5 and 6 years before it happened in a copyrighted work (1984).

    Morgan Sorensen

    • Hi Morgan,

      I agree with you that it is not the revived roman empire. I am not sure about the Jewish Antichrist idea, since Abraham is the father of the Arabs too. I do agree that he will be Assyrian.

      It sounds like you have valuable information on your site. I hope many visit there and benefit from your insights.

      blessings
      marianne

      • Hi Marine, Greeetings.

        I stand to be corrected and please help me here if I am wrong. You stated that “Abraham is the father of the Arabs too” Now, Ishmael might be a son of Abraham, but not ‘the’ son of Abraham. In Genesis 17, when God renewed the covenant with Abraham, God did not mentioned anything about Ishmael being blessed…Abraham is the one who insisted upon God giving a blessing to Ishmael. God said I have blessed him too, but the promise is unto Isaac. In God’s original plan, there was never an Ishmael, disobedient and fear (lack of faith) caused this. Abraham is the father of all those who accepts the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, which extends to the church today. So it is quite possible that the anti-christ will rise from that region. Another thing is, why I believe that the anti-christ will be Jewish is that the Jews will not accept an outsider someone not from their culture and beliefs. For they to be misled, the anti-christ will have to practice Jewish laws and know their culture and everything. Jews do not accept outsiders and far more to be led by them. I don’t think so. Another is when the anti-christ will profane the temple of God. He cannot do that if he had no access to it in the first place. I strongly believe it will be a Jew.

        Love, be bless.
        Charmaine.

        • Hi Charmaine

          I agree. I meant only that the Arabs are physical descendants of Ishmael, who was a physical son of Abraham. They do not inherit the promises, but God was merciful enough to bless them.

          The bible indicates that the Antichrist will be Assyrian. However, Jews do live everywhere. Also, consider that Israel is FORCED into peace agreements.

          They do not voluntarily give up land for peace, and submit to terrorist demands. They are forced politically, in order to keep receiving aid from the US.

          The bible never said they would be WILLING to submit to any Antichrist, only that there would be a covenant that is broken. Covenants with terrorists have always been broken by the terrorists.

          Have you heard that Amadinejad is Jewish? He gets along very well with anti-zionist Jews who also hate Israel.

  26. Thanks Marianne. I do not mean to oppose you, I just want to bring about a correct understanding. I am a missionary, in ministry over 40 years now. I have lived in South Africa for many years, and am married to an “Afrikaans” lady. I reside at present south of Nashville,Tennessee, USA.
    Where are you located Marianne ? I find your site interresting.
    “Siener” Van Rensburg was a very God fearing Man, and those of us who believe in God and his providence, understand the importance of this prophet’s work.
    By the way, I left you a “strong worded” comment on your post , “Zionism-jewish betrayel”. So please excuse that, but I felt I needed to “Shock you” into reality. ( I think you have possibly bought into the “Zionist’s” propaganda machine) so go back and recheck your facts. I shall Take time over the next few weeks to peruse your site.

    Regards,
    Morgan Sorensen

    • Hi Morgan,

      It is ok to oppose me. Disagreement can make people think harder.
      :)

      Debate is not uncommon on my site. I have Christians with different ideas, Muslims, Atheists,etc here.

      I am in NC. Do you know any of the Church of God group in Cleveland?

      I recognize your name. I do a lot of reading on the internet. Maybe it is from there?

      South Africa has been through so much heartache. I hope all goes well there from now on with the Christians.

      blessings
      marianne

  27. understand that your brother is one in Christ, as you know not every one is your brother, or your sister, thy get that title through being saved through Christ. we become brothers and sisters in Christ, I am not judging, to judge. I am pointing out the things that are not right with him, I could say the evil one, but also would be judging him. or can turn your back and let him destroy, and lead people to hell. yes we the people have a choose, to fellow him, or not. but if people are a sleep and not a ware of him, then thy are a doomed to hell. if we can just get people, to think with a little seed, thy can seek out the truth .on there own, its just like jests you tell them about him thy make the choose seek to follow or back away its got to be up to them Jesus kept trying over and over it was his wish that no man be lost I fill its obama

    • HI Flybird,

      The only judging we are not to do is by hypocrisy, when we criticize others for the same sin we have. WE are entitled to righteous judgment. This is necessary for our survival, to properly evaluate a situation for the sake of our own safety. We have to be able to judge that someone is dangerous, so we can stay away from him, and not be hurt.

      This world is full of Antichrist personalities now. World leaders have left God. So, it is important to use wisdom when having to deal with any of them. The truth, like you say, should be obvious to anyone who is in Christ, and has the Holy Spirit to guide them.

      blessings
      marianne

  28. I wanted to point out something before I post what I wrote I said it before I fill its obama I know I maybe wrong

    don’t recall the color of obama? never said his color I due not judge the book by its cover only by his actions.

    If you choose to set and what to see fill free to due that thats are choose are god given right to express it

    when Noah was building the ark people laugh thy didn’t get rain no that just doesn’t happen

    Then he started to take pairs of animals on board then thy got on thy closed the doors

    it started to rain Those people had all the chances in the world to turn and due right thy choose not to

    it was to late know we have a choose to make we can say he’s black won’t give him a chance or we can say he fits a lot of the ways and yes it might be judging but if your right we may have saved a few which we are told to due if were wrong then we can and will be forgiven be cause we are watching and looking as god commanded us to due

  29. agree we should seat back, and watch, listen, learn, all we can. I am sure every one here no’s what to watch and listen for.

    We all no obama is no God we won’t fellow him but yet we due.
    We know not to believe him but we due.
    We know not to trust him we due.
    We know not to follow him but we due.
    We know not to make him are god but we due.

    We are totaly blind when it comes to him We can not see there will be toughs that won’t see.
    We are told not to be asleep we are to be alert to watch to listen and not to follow

    OUR WE WILL BE LOST SOUL’S

    theres some kind of chip that comes out in June it was sub post to come out last year but was moved up to this year.
    Were you couldn’t go in court house or any thing like that with out this chip or even work in thoughs places.

    But this is not the mark the way I understand it but fill its a step forward to it

    I think a question we need to ask are self is how far are we willing to go?

    What if the time comes were you can’t by food,gas,get your paycheck,pay your bills or due any thing with out that mark?

    The rapture isn’t came yet or we missed it ? then what?
    will you stand for Christ? die for Christ? will you tell the ones that want to put you to death for beleaving in your god that you will not deny him? you will not take the chip.

    Once that mark is taken its over. YOUR A LOST SOUL
    the choose we must make needs to be now we don’t know what tomorrow will bring we could have a accident be killed we could be attacked at any moment. LAUGH THATS RIGHT DID WE NO WHEN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT? “no”

    • Hi flybird, The mark will not be forced upon us, nor will we be tricked into accepting it. People will accept it willingly.
      Here are some of my thought on the mark of the beast.
      If in fact it is an implanted chip, it could be removed or stolen if a person is killed or wounded. Or it could tamper proof by detonation.
      I personally believe it will be a physical mark. Whether administered by the government of the world or in local tattoo shops, the mark is purely a show of obedience or acceptance of the beast! You are correct, once you accept it your soul is doomed, no turning back!
      Chris

  30. Saudi files for ‘killer’ tracking chip patent.

    http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20090515-19313.html

    Another giant step to control people!

  31. Here is an interesting conclusive video

  32. Marianne;

    Someone sent me this video:

    Jesus gave us the Name of the Anti-Christ

    I’ve been studying that on-line book I got from your web site:

    http://www.rapturesolution.com/

    There are so many questions people are asking out there. It’s very confusing and I wanted to be solid ground. It’a puzzle; Daniel, Matthew 24, Theasolonians and the Book of Revelelation.

    He writes at the beginning of this book:

    “How do you explain the different beliefs? Here’s his over-simplified analysis of the situation. Christians and their beliefs about the end times fall into three general categories: 10 Many Christians believe that christ will return before the tribulation because they believe what good bible teachers have told them, not through personal knowledge of the bible, 2) Other Christians who have studied the Bible more see some problems and have come to believe that we will go through the tribulation before Christ returns, and 30 Christians who study the bible deeper yet discover a wonderful harmony in the Bible and thank god that believers will not go through the tribulation after all.” ” He states: If your Bibl study has mad you question pre-trib beliefs, then he’s glad. Glad because you’re in the Bible”

    I’ve been getting exposed to other beliefs and I was starting to question the Pre-trib stance. He has great time lines in this book on line. He gives all the arguments too of the different stances: Pre, Mid, Post trib.

    From what I have learned so far we can start counting and know the day Christ returns when the abomintion of desolation is committed if we’re still here: In the midst of the week begins the three and one half year countdown. He gives a lot of good diagrams and time lines: 3 1/2 years = 42 months=1260 days So we have to have a “Temple”. So the question is: Are we still here to see this? I don’t believe so, but I’ve just started on this study. I highly recommend it for those of you who have a lot of questions.

    Thses videos bother me, because people start looking at us as foolish when our prediction don’t turn out. But then they get you studying too!

    Dig in!

    Kittii

    Someone also sent me this:

    “Rather than focusing on when Jesus is coming back, we should focus on what we are to be going as we wait for his return” Makes a lot of sense. Anticipating his return is a refining fire. It keeps you alert!

    • hi Kitti

      The source of the confusion is the TRADITION that someone started…..that the tribulation is 7 years.

      Jesus never says this, the bible never says this.

      the 7 years comes from Daniels’ last week.

      The tribulation, or Jacob’s trouble is only 3 1/2 years, or 42 months. Jesus said he would return after this time.

      the rapture is not the return of Jesus…..because we are caught up in the air to meet him in the clouds….he does not come back to earth yet

      jesus only returns to earth once…and that is after the 42 months.

      the conflict originates in the definitions of “tribulation”…if the definitions are clear, Jesus only comes once, and that is after the 42 months.

      the entire 70th week is a different discussion.

    • much of the mid and post rapture ideas come from jesus’ teaching in matt 24 etc. but jesus said he was only sent to the lost sheep of israel. the church didn’t begin until pentecost and gentiles weren’t included until later. so jesus was actually speaking to the jewish people in matt 24 etc. i believe we will suffer persecution in the last days (which is already beginning), but the bible says in several places that we will escape the wrath that will come on the whole world.

    • I get your point but the scriptures say He is coming for those that look for his appearance, so maybe we should be about our Fathers business while we seek His face and o His will.

  33. the bible states clearly there is a covenant with the holy people for 1 week or 1 set of 7 which is referring to 7 years. which is a promise or treaty and will be broken half way through. Daniel 9:27.

  34. the 4th beast is the EU . all the earth except the king of the north which is Russia the land of Magog and the kings of the east which is china and countries aligned with them. the U.S. will be part of the EU. they already can use our weapons of warfare for their purposes by way of the UN. simply by replacing our flag with a UN. symbol.

  35. Hotheadbuddy,
    The theory of the EU being the 4th beast has many scriptural problems; think about the book of Daniel, and Daniel who received these visions, some of them end time and some referring the to kingdoms that followed the Babylonian.
    Daniel received all of his visions while in captivity; first under Nebucadnezzar, then under Darius, and then under Cyrus. Most of his visions were beside one of the rivers in what would be present day iran; the banks of the Ulai, ch 8; by the great river Hiddekel, ch 10; this vision goes through chp 12, and in chp 12 he sees the mighty angel standing on the same river.
    Ezekiel likewise was a captive during the Babylonian captivity, and he received his visions by the river Chebar, which is a river in Mesopotamia.
    Daniel’s vision in chapter 2 ends with the destruction of these kingdoms with Christ’s coming, so the last kingdom would have to be referring to a kingdom that is now, or in formation now; Europe is far removed from Israel, and as Marianne pointed out above, EU is not a warring country; if you do much study, Islam is on the verge of taking over Europe, and making great strides in our own country.
    Daniel’s vision of chp 7 is the same; the 4th kingdom is one existing and in power when Christ returns, so it is not Rome, or a revived Rome in the EU. that argument is historically incompatible with the Bible.
    Historically and present day, all the countries that surround Israel have always been the enemies of Israel; they are pointed out on the map above.

  36. I also agree that all the countries that surround Israel are still enemies. but my problem is that the 4Th beast is stated to be different from the rest. exceedingly strong and overwhelmingly powerful , no one will be able to make war with him. The Antichrist of the 4Th beast will cause all to take his mark. no country is able to do this with either military might or economical strength except that of a EU-US type of union which has been formed in DEC 1991 called the treaty of Maastricht which calls for a single currency in the EU.and then the world And with the US. dollar on its way out this is the only power which could accomplish this. i do not believe an Arab country or even a combination of them could succeed to this at there power level. I also understand Islam is taking over Europe just as you stated. which sounds like the later phase of the roman empire which is portrayed as a mixture of iron and clay and do not naturally mix. and out of this 4Th beast arises the 10 horns or 10 rulers and their kingdoms which belong to the revived roman empire that will consist of a 10 division federation that will give its allegiance and authority to the Antichrist.there will be 4 major players at Armageddon . 1. israel and christ. 2. the Antichrist and his kingdom , 3. the king of the north which i believe to be Russia Iran and their allies and the kings of the east which is plural. please enlighten me as to what the 4Th beast is in your opinion. thank you. remember iron sharpens iron.

    • Hi Hotheadbuddy

      I tend to think the beast is Islamic, and I have posts on this. But I may be wrong. I think the time is so close that the truth will come out soon enough about this. In the meantime, we should all watch and pray.

    • i don’t believe the fourth beast is the “revived roman empire.” i believe the US will fall and will have little or no role in the end times events. i believe the false prophet will be a pope and the antichrist will be assyrian. both the vatican and islam have desire the temple mount for their own. i believe the covenant will have something to do with shared control of jerusalem. if you look at nebuchadnezzar’s metal image and combine it with daniel’s later prophecy about greece and its four horns: greece is the belly of bronze, the ptolemy and seleucid empires which came out of greece are the thighs of bronze. therefore the legs of iron MUST be an extension of these two empires. rome was NOT an extension of either of these, nor was rome different from the gold, silver and bronze empires. the islamic empire is both an extension of the ptolemy and seleucid empires, and it is different because it is religious in nature. the iron and clay could represent this religious and military (jihad) nature. the ends times scenario is a battle for world control with jerusalem at the center. whoever wants jerusalem must be the key players (the vatican and islam). the false prophet appears as a lamb that speaks like a dragon. the pope claims to represent christ, but teaches lies. the choice of execution for the beast and false prophet is beheading. so also islam. a muslim can have control over the fourth beast if the fourth beast is muslim. with the worldwide influence that the vatican has, it is easy to see how the world will be forced to take the mark. and the ten kings give the antichrist his power. but his true power is from satan. THAT is why no one is able to make war against him. and that brings up another question. who are the ten kings? the UN has divided the world into ten regions. maybe they are the rulers of the ten regions.

  37. you may be right in some fashion but how can a Muslim have control over the 4th beast ? even if he is Islamic he will not regard that religion or the god of his fathers, but bring all glory to himself. now the false prophet could be Islamic because he will cause all to worship the politician.( the Antichrist )how could an Islamic politician , Mahdi , Islamic Antichrist or whatever is coming cause all to take his mark. the only way would be with world control from an Arab federation or a one Muslim state that is part of the EU that will be able to use its military and economic strength to accomplish its goal. the Antichrist will be neither all Islamic ,christian or all Jew. but will be so neutral he will appease all. and try to bring them together in a one world goverment and religion . and all these religions are going to slowly demise in population with the great falling away stated in the bible.to make way for the apostate church which has already tried to form in Germany but could not because the Muslims and Christians could not come to an agreement. when the Antichrist does appear all will receive him readily except the elect. who are from every nation , tribe and tongue. even they will come out of Islam after they renounce it. remember who can make war with him? right now no one in the middle east can even make war with Israel.

    • hi hotheadbuddy

      To understand my reasoning, you would have to read the posts I wrote.

      Rev 13 describes the 4th beast as a combination of leopard (Greece), bear (medo-Persia) and Lion (Babylon).

      Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

      The Grecian empire, outside of greece itself, included what is now all Islamic territories.

  38. are you implying that in the bible when it says the whole world it meens the whole ancient world and the boundries of that time? or am i lost? sorry

    • hi hotheadbuddy

      You bring up a good point. What is the definition of “the whole world?” It is a matter of interpretation now, but we hope soon we will understand this better.

    • Revelation 13:5And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.b

  39. still there is no power that will have the control the antichrist will have to bring all to worship him unless they are speaking of the arab world which he would have to be a member of the EU for economic and military power. Turkey is striving to become a member of the EU,if this happens many more islamic countries will follow. this could lead to an arab confederation or a one arab state backed by the EU. the problem is they dont have the money or power to complete what is written in the bible , they will have to rely on the EU-US. TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIME i believe europe may become islamic to complete the tasks ordained in the word of god . if the U.S. leaves iraq it will slowly loose its dominate power. and prime a russian, persian, iraq and possibley some type of state where all they need is saudi arabia and hugo chavez to alter the economic balance of the worlds supply of oil. and we will have a new world system. posibley babalyon the great. but as far as the term the whole world i beleive it is relevent to this day and age, this is why no one from a poor arab country will have the power to complete what is written without the backing of the EU which is not fully functional economicly right now, but it is able able to military now due to NATO and the relationship with the U.S. [please let me know any further thoughts or insights)

  40. Please watch Antichrist and a cup of tea on youtube.com. His own family crest fits perfectly into The Bible’s book of Revelation symbols for the AC. He was taken out of Diana’s womb on a pagan summer soltice. Prince William is the antichrist. He has moslem and jewish blood. He turns 30 years old in 2012, the same age as Yeshua’s start to his 3,5 ministry.

    • Well Cr—-p! He is too cute to be mixed up in all of this…..LOL

    • But seriously, I had read about the same thing and thought it was quite interesting that on his father’s crest (they have different crests made for each child) are the animals described in Revelations and when Prince Charles had his inaugaration?, Queen Elizabeth stated “the dragon gives you your power, throne and authority”…right out of Revelation 13 ! If they took this quote our of Revelations diliberately, well, that is just “creepy”….if not, then….only G-D knows, truly, what is going on…

  41. dude pls note that 1 of the islamic prophecy is that the arab will very few in numbers , like it or not, u must discard any possibilities that islam-arab will be one of the key players in the end of days wars cuz they are so few of them left(according to islamic script). dunno y but it is said so in a hadith. and those that of the army againts the anti-Christ consist of those lost tribes of israel.
    I firmly believe that the antichrist first army is jews(1 or 2 tribes of israel) army and their opposition also consist jews(as the lost tribes of israel)

  42. an interesting twist i would love for you to do some research and try to enlighten us with more of your view, we need more on this topic seen from open minded people as yourself. peace to you. its a sham there is know peace from islam only a sword

  43. There is a verse in quran famously named the sword verse. This verse are widely used in muslim world and western world to promote aggressiveness unto muslims enemies.
    But this is only a political twist to makes one succumb and blinded by the verse for individual purposes,for there s verses after that that balance the aggressiveness of the sword verse which promote peace and toleration.

    U know ..dirty and greedy politics can sometimes twist good things into bad.

    ill post the islamic version of end days prophecy later..
    we are here indeed to remind and learn anyhow :)

  44. there 2 group of signs . The minor and the major ones.

    Ill just briefly list down the major signs.

    – The sun risen in the west
    – The emergence of “the beast”
    – Anti christ , dajjal emerge
    – Jesus will come to earth.
    – Earthquakes/eclipses in 3 directions east,west and arabian peninsular
    – Smokes/haze will come out from the sky throughout the world.
    – yajuj majuj( gog magog)
    – Fire will come out from the earth(volcanic eruption?) in a specific place

  45. Shalom from Jerusalem,

    There are many ‘types’ given for the AC; some are of Gentiles, but most are Jewish. The Jews are looking for their Messiah still. AC will come claiming to be of the seed of David, the Messiah. They will believe him because he will build a temple for them. This temple will be started in 6 years. The AC is in power now in Israel. The 70th week is not about some security agreement made for Israel by a Gentile AC. It is rather, about the rebuilding of the temple. It is the sacrifices which are stopped in the mid-week, not a peace agreement.

  46. I think this guy is a messianic Jew. It’s the first one I’ve seen. How refreshing.

  47. I found this to be quite interesting….Did Jesus reveal the NAME of the AC in the book of Isaiah?! WOW!

  48. At that conference http://www.davidhocking.com/res/pdf/conf/2010-USA-Prophecy-Conference.pdf I went to, I picked up a book called
    “God’s Plan for the Ages” by Dr. David Reagan. http://lamblion.com/
    He has an extensive resume too: Professor of International law and Politics for twenty years.

    This book sound interesting to me, because he said every chapter could stand on it’s own. I was reading about the rapture today and he said

    “We are exhorted to live looking for Jesus Christ, not the anti-christ (Titus 2:13)

    I recently ran across this interesting web site:

    http://watch.pair.com/merovingian.html

    There’s also a huge New Ager that talks about bloodlines too.

    http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/index.htm

    Grace Powers http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/about-1.html

    is really anti-Christian, anti-Israel. She labels someone like me: a Christian Zionist Extremist.

    I find that amusing. It took me awhile to track down her web site after I watched her videos. Here’s her video on: The ILLUMINATI – bloodlines planned gulf of mexico oil spill leak new world order.

  49. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reagan

    http://www.lamblion.com/television/programs_interview3-GodsPlan.php

  50. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/some-chicago-jews-say-obama-is-actually-the-first-jewish-president-1.257204

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    Some Chicago Jews say Obama is actually the ‘first Jewish president’
    Chicago attorney: Obama’s personal story reflects the story of Jewish immigration to the U.S.

    By Natasha Mozgovaya
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    Quite a few of Barack Obama’s “friends from the past” have popped up recently. It’s doubtful whether he even knows their names, but in the Chicago Jewish community many people really are long-time friends of the president-elect. Some of the older people in the community say that they “raised him,” while others half-jokingly call Obama “the first Jewish president.”

    They raised contributions for him, provided him with contacts, and also enjoyed hosting him and believed in his glorious future in politics. During most of the campaign, when rumors were spreading among American Jews that Obama was a closet Muslim who was more supportive of the Palestinians and was interested in granting the president of Iran legitimacy, his support among American Jews did not even come close to that enjoyed by Bill Clinton. But at the moment of truth, according to the exit polls, it turns out that 78 percent of Jews voted for Obama.

    Members of the Chicago Jewish community are not surprised. They claim that the Jews simply discovered what they have known for years. Obama lives near the synagogue in the Hyde Park neighborhood of Chicago, an area with quite a large Jewish population. Some of area visitors may even mistake the heavy security presence on the street for the synagogue’s location – that is, until they hear about Obama.

    Alan Solow, an attorney from Chicago, a leader of the Jewish community and a veteran Obama supporter, was one of the few who gained access to the president-elect after his speech in Chicago’s Grant Park last week. “After his speech on Tuesday night [election day] in front of hundreds of thousands people, he was the same Barack Obama I know. I think his life is going to change, but it won’t change the type of person he is. Presidents tend to become isolated, but I’m confident he’ll fight hard against it,” he says.

    Solow used to live in Obama’s neighborhood, and says that Obama has always had “excellent relations with the Jewish community.”

    “As a local senator, he was very effective and helpful in what we call ‘the Jewish agenda,’ the community issues, values. He has always had a deep understanding of Israel’s need for security. I went with him to Israel for a week in January 2006, and when he started the race for the presidency I had no doubt I’d support him. The first thing that impressed me about him was his intellect – he’s one of the smartest people I’ve met – but he’s also a warm and caring person who has a keen interest in issues that people of this country are worried about,” continues Solow.

    “I said with a smile that he will be the first Jewish president. He also has a deep understanding of issues that confront Israel and the Jewish community. And I think his personal story reflects the story of Jewish immigration to the United States.

    “He was raised in a family without any built-in advantages: His father was a stranger, but with the help of a close family and an emphasis on education and hard work, he succeeded. It’s the Jewish story in America. He understands it, and that’s why he’s so close to the Jewish community. His first autobiography is about seeking his roots and he understands Jewish people’s yearning for this – it fits into his world view and it’s one of the reasons for his support of Israel. When he says that Israel’s security is sacrosanct, I believe him. As I know him, he won’t say things he doesn’t really mean. And he has a lot of close Jewish friends who can confirm this.”

    Solow is also very familiar with Obama’s first appointment – his designated White House chief of staff. “Rahm is an active member of Jewish community, his children go to the day schools and he was always recognized as Jewish when he was Clinton’s advisor. But I don’t believe that the fact that he’s a devoted Jew and supports Israel has anything to do with his appointment. He’s simply the best person for this job, because of his experience in Congress and in Clinton’s administration, and because of his intellect. But his support of Israel fits with the president-elect’s thinking.”

    Michael Bauer, a political activist from the community who has known Obama for over a decade and supported his presidential campaign, says his first reaction to Obama’s victory was disbelief. “It seemed like a dream. After the election, I had a brief opportunity to congratulate him, to exchange a hug with Barack, a kiss with Michelle. We’re very proud of him and we’re sure he’ll successfully handle the big challenges facing the country and the new president,” he says.

    “If we go back to his work as a State senator, his Senate district had a relatively high percentage of Jews, and more importantly, it was a Jewish population involved both politically and with charity organizations. When he was in the State Senate, the Democrats were a minority. When you’re a minority you don’t get too much accomplished. Neither Barack as a State Senator nor any of his colleagues were able to accomplish a great deal, because of Republican control of the State Senate. However, because of his district, it was always clear to me that many people supporting Barack are active in the Jewish community both locally and nationally. And they agreed about his sensitivity to a number of issues – the issue of the U.S-Israel relationship and domestically, issues that many of us are concerned about, be it the separation of Church and State, women’s right to choose, etc. It was always a natural fit between the Jewish community and Barack Obama. He understands those issues. Frankly, he’s so smart he understands them better than most of us,” says Bauer.

    Identifying with Sderot

    “As a U.S. senator he visited Israel twice, and especially the second time I think was highly significant,” Bauer continues. “I think it was important to him personally to go to Sderot and see the proximity involved when Israel is attacked on a daily basis from Gaza. I think it was also symbolic for the people of Israel and the worldwide community, as well as the Jewish community, to see Barack Obama going to Sderot and speaking about it, that as president it will be unacceptable to him and he recognizes Israel’s right to defend itself. This symbolism was important on so many different levels. I’ve known the president-elect for over 10 years, and his values and principles never change. If you ask me whether I have confidence that he’ll continue to be committed to Israel’s existence as a Jewish state within secure borders – I have absolutely no doubt.”

    “President Bush supported Israel as well, but after eight years of his support Israel faces a stronger Iran, Hezbollah at the northern border, Hamas at the southern border – and Hamas gained a sort of political legitimacy. I think George Bush was a disaster for the State of Israel. And I think Obama’s administration understands Israel’s needs for safety and security, the importance of Israel remaining a Jewish state, and will try to help to mediate a peace in the Middle East that accomplishes those goals. There are still people who don’t believe it, but the great thing in democracy is that everyone has an opinion and you don’t need 100 percent consensus. I think peace in the Middle East is one of his highest priorities – he’s not going to wait for seven years as a president to start working on it.”

    Bauer was also heavily involved in Rahm Emanuel’s campaign for Congress. “Let me say something about Rahm. One of the things people don’t like about him is the fact he’s short with people, but it’s only because he’s such a smart person. He doesn’t need a 15-minute phone conversation, he gets to the issues in three minutes. And Israel – it’s in his blood. The fact that Joe Biden, with a long record of supporting Israel, is Obama’s vice president-elect and Rahm Emanuel is his chief of staff – I’m not sure what reassurance anyone needs that the president-elect when he is president will remain a close ally of the State of Israel and the people of Israel.”

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  51. In the recent prophetic conference telecast live on Angel TV, some of the things prophesied by Vincent Selvakumar (http://www.voiceofjesus.org.in/) are:
    1. He said soon this vision will come true.
    Zechariah 5:11 And he said to me, “To build a house for it in the land of Shinar; when it is ready, the basket will be set there on its base.”
    He said , a center/organisation will be set up to meet the needs of the people in the land of Shinar.
    What I understood from that prophecy is that antichrist and one world government will be centered around Shinar/Babylon/modern Iraq. In Genesis we see an effort by mankind to establish a one world government – Tower of Babel in the same place.
    He also said that the one woman in that Zechariah vision will be helped by 4 women (4 countries may be) to build that organisation.
    So Babylon is the area to be watched it seems, not European Union.
    2. Soon the stones of Jerusalem will be covered with blood.
    3. Soon the third temple will be built.
    4.There will heavy destrution through winds.
    5. New rays are coming down, that may cause skin cancer
    In the end he described a vision of eagles in the mountains waiting. As soon as the sun’s rays fall on them they will rise up as prophets.
    He also described a vision in which he saw an angel with a small trumpet ready to sound and heard a voice stating that “The King of Kings is coming soon”
    He also said end time generation is a prophetic generation. The (soon to come?)end times annointing will be a prophetic annointing.
    He is organising a prophetic conference in his place which also will be telecast live in Angel TV during Oct 8 & 9, 2010. Pl. watch. You will be blessed.

    http://www.angeltv.org/

    Angel TV can also be watched in this link.

    http://www.epctv.com/channels/Angel_TV-Online-Watch-4579.htm

    Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj said UK will be hit by heavy rains. He also said that the events in Rev chapters 7,11,13 will happen at the same time.

  52. JR Church on his cable program:

    http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/tv-schedule/

    http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/

    he was talking about his new book:

    Daniel Reveals the Bloodline of the Antichrist by J.R. Church

    Daniel 2:43
    J. R. believes the Antichrist may carry supernatural, Nephilim blood and be a descendant of the tribe of Dan. Many verses in the Bible connect the tribe of Dan with Mount Hermon and the Antichrist.

    http://www.lovethetruth.com/books/13_bloodlines/merovingian.htm

    http://watch.pair.com/dan.html

    Many of the American political leaders have been related to the British Royalty incl. George Bush and Dan Quayle.

    This bloodline is so extensive in its many branches that its membership takes in many of the Presidents of the United States, including George Hush and George Washington. The reason that I gave the genealogies of the some of the Mormon Presidents to people back in 1991 in my Be Wise As Serpents book is that all of the Mormon Presidents in history, whether RLDS or LDS, trace their blood back to this 13th bloodline. Within the Illuminati rituals, the emphasis of the 13th bloodline is that they are the seed of Satan.

  53. But the Joel Richardson seems to think:

    http://www.prophezine.com/Default.aspx?tabid=931&error=Timeout+expired.++The+timeout+period+elapsed+prior+to+completion+of+the+operation+or+the+server+is+not+responding.&content=0

    The Islamic End Time Paradigm
    By Joel Richardson

    How many of you are aware of the fact that there is presently a massive paradigm shift-taking place in the world of Biblical Prophecy? The shift that is talking place is away from the Roman End-Time Paradigm with its European-centric perspective and toward the Islamic End-Time Paradigm with its Middle Eastern focus.

    The Return of Christ in The Old Testament

    Lets go all the way back to the Torah and let’s look at one of the oldest, the most direct and one of the clearest prophecies regarding the coming of the Messiah. You’ll be surprised at what you discover. This is the story of Balaam and Balak. Balak of course was the Midian King and Balaam was a Midianite Prophet of Baal. Balak had paid Balaam to speak a curse over the Hebrews who were camped out in a vast array in a large valley below. As Balak and Balaam stood together on a large precipice overlooking the Hebrew camp below, something powerful happened. Rather than speaking according to the demonic spirit of Baal, Balaam instead began to speak according to the Spirit of God. What he said should be very important to all of us who desire to know the truth regarding the nature of the End-Times. The passage begins with Balaam speaking words to Balak that Balak most certainly did not want to hear:

    “…come therefore, and I will advertise thee what this people (The Hebrews) shall do to thy people (The Midianites) in the latter days. —Numbers 24:14 (KJV)

    What needs to be pointed out however, is that while most translations say something here like, “in the latter days”, the literal meaning is, “the end of days” (‘achariyth yawm see also Isaiah 2:2; Genesis 49:1; Micah 4:1; Daniel 10:14). If you are a good Berean, look it up to see if what I am saying is true. So Balaam is about to tell Balak what the Hebrew peoples will do to the Midianites in the End-Times. The chronological context of this prophecy is quite clear. But it is what he says next that we need to pay very close attention to. In one of the clearest and most direct Messianic prophecies of the Torah, it is Balaam the pagan prophet of Baal who gives us a glimpse into some of the specifics regarding the nature of the return of Christ:

    “I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth. And Edom shall be a possession, Seir also shall be a possession for his enemies; and Israel shall do valiantly. Out of Jacob shall come he that shall have dominion, and shall destroy him that remaineth of the city.” —Numbers 24:17-19 (KJV)

    Jesus Christ, the ruler of Israel will arise from among His people. As believers, we know that when Christ came the first time, His kingdom was inaugurated. But that which He has already inaugurated, He will also come back to establish visibly and physically on the earth. This will be accomplished at His second coming. But of all of the things that the Lord could have highlighted regarding His return (remember the context is the End-Times) what is it that the Lord focuses on? What is the primary action and mission of the Messiah as described in this prophecy?

    · He will smite (on the head, to shatter) Moab.
    · He will destroy the sons of Sheth (the sons of tumult, see Jeremiah 48:45)
    · He will have dominion over His people Israel, who shall act valiantly.
    · He will cause Edom and Mount Seir to become the possession of Israel.
    · He shall destroy the remnant of Israel’s enemies.

    It is important that we understand exactly whom the Lord is speaking about here. By speaking of the Midianites, the Moabites, the Edomites and Mt. Seir all together in an essentially synonymous way, the Lord is pointing us to the Baal worshipping pagans of the desert that lived to the east and south of modern day Israel. While the primary capital cities of these peoples were largely in modern day Jordan, Egypt and northern Saudi Arabia, their greater kingdoms extended all the way down the west coast of the Arabian Peninsula. See the map below:

    Now, at this point, the responsible Berean must ask the following questions: When the Lord returns, the Bible says that He will destroy a certain people. Based on this passage, is it more reasonable and responsible to conclude that Jesus will crush the modern day spiritual and physical ancestors of the ancient eastern peoples that were continually giving trouble to the Hebrew people all throughout Biblical history, or is it more reasonable to conclude that this passage is speaking about France, Germany, Romania and Luxembourg, etc.? By Moab, Edom and Midian, should we understand this passage to be referring to Italy or to modern day Saudi Arabia, and all of the peoples who are the spiritual and physical ancestors of the peoples who fourteen hundred years ago, burst forth out of Mecca, Arabia to spread their Arab-Islamic religion and empire throughout much of the world? I think that the answer is clear, yet I have yet to see one serious treatment of this passage or dozens of others just like it in any of my fairly substantial collection of prophecy books. And there lies the problem; when one begins with the false assumptions of the Roman End-Time Paradigm, one is then forced to ignore or twist numerous other portions of Scripture to make them fit this un-Scriptural paradigm. This passage most often is in the category of ignored.

  54. So I guess I will have to buy JR Church’s book and Joel Richardson’s book

    http://www.islamantichrist.com/

    To make up my mind.

    Jesse Ventura has an interesting book out to called
    American Conspiracies:

    http://www.servelec.net/lincoln.htm

  55. Hey Marianne,

    Can you explain the differences between AC, Beast and False Prophet?

    After listening to Walid Shoebat with the support of Perry Stone and Chuck Missler, I am satisfied with their evidence that the beast is definitely Islam.

    I see clearly that Obama is also part of the beast in that he is Muslim. This is evident from his actions. IF he was born in Kenya, wouldn’t this exclude him from being the MAIN PLAYER and put him in the role of, say, Trojan Horse?

    Obama was obviously the means by which the Beast/Islam was able to invade America, which is or “was” the world’s superpower. Take down the superpower via trojan horse and divide and conquer. So now that this has already happened, now what? What and who are we looking for? Turkey?

    I thought it was very interesting that through the help of Walid Shoebat’s translation of the scriptures, he told us that Hamas and Gaza are mentioned by name in the scriptures and that G-d will be dealing directly with both. Did I hear that correctly?

    And then remembering that Turkey AROSE over the summer from the Gaza conflict….hmmm Is Turkey the “wounded head”?

    • Lyndsey

      The AC is of Assyrian birth or ancestry, but may live in any country, since the Assyrian empire included territory from several modern day countries. He may be the head of the beast. The beast is an empire, according to Daniel. It will be primarily of the ancient grecian empire ( body of leopard) and teeth of lion ( babylon-Iraq) with the feet of a bear (medo-persian). The false prophet is an advocate for the beast, not the AC, and proclaims all should worship the beast. If the beast is the Islamic area, and Islam is the empire, then this would be someone advocating that all worship Islam.

      • Thank you Marianne….still thinking….

        So, Obama isn’t “leading” the empire/Islam/Beast…so he is not the AC.

        He has demonstrated thus far that he is only a follower of the empire/Islam/Beast…..

        AC=leader of the Empire/Islam/Beast
        False Prophet = advocate of the Empire/Islam/Beast

  56. I guess here’s another person saying the Anti-Christ is to be Islamic and an Assyrian. Dr. Regan thinks it’s a waste of time trying to identify him. It’s definitely interesting subject. Here’s Dr. Regan’s response to his assertions.

    http://www.lamblion.us/2009/01/antichrist-muslim-unveiling-man-of-sin.html

    By Dr. David R. Reagan

    Could the Antichrist possibly be a Muslim? This is a new idea that seems to be catching fire today due to the awakening of Islam and the revival of its territorial goal of conquering the world for Allah.

    I recently read four books that relate to this topic.

    VanKoevering’s Book

    The second book I consulted that proposes a Muslim Antichrist is one published in 2007 by Dr. Joe VanKoevering. It is titled Unveiling the Man of Sin.1 The author is an eloquent and enthusiastic teacher of Bible prophecy. He serves as the host of a television program called “God’s News Behind the News.” He also pastors Gateway Christian Center in St. Petersburg, Florida.

    VanKoevering begins his quest for the Antichrist by asserting, that he must be of Assyrian heritage. His biblical basis for this assertion is Isaiah 10:24 — “Therefore, thus says the Lord God of hosts, ‘O My people who dwell in Zion, do not fear the Assyrian who strikes you with the rod and lifts up his staff against you, the way Egypt did.'”

    Next, he claims that since Antiochus Epiphanes — a type of the Antichrist — came from the Seleucid or Assyrian area of the Grecian Empire (Syria and Iraq), the Antichrist must also come from that area.

    He then tries to narrow down the search to one modern day country within the old Assyrian Empire. He does this by pointing out that in Daniel 11 there is a description of the Antichrist’s invasion of the Middle East during the Tribulation. Daniel says the Antichrist and his army will conquer Israel and Egypt but will not enter the area of modern day Jordan. This prompts VanKoevering to conclude that the Antichrist will come from Jordan.

    Response to VanKoevering

    In response I would point out first of all that Isaiah 10:24 has absolutely nothing to do with end time prophecy. Isaiah 10 is a prophecy that God will use Assyria as His “rod of anger” (verse 5) to judge Israel. He urges Israel in verses 24-25 not to fear the Assyrians because “in a very little while My indignation against you will be spent, and My anger will be directed to their destruction.” In other words, God will use Assyria to discipline Israel but He will not allow them to destroy the Jewish people. And furthermore, once He is finished using Assyria as a rod of His discipline, He will destroy the Assyrian Empire.

    That’s all there is to the passage. Again, it has nothing to do with end time prophecy or the Antichrist.

    I have already addressed the argument that the Antichrist must be an Assyrian because his symbolic type — Antiochus Epiphanes — was from Assyria. Again, there are many types of the Antichrist presented in Scripture, like the Pharaoh of the Exodus and King Saul of Israel, but these types do not mean the Antichrist will necessarily come from Egypt or Israel. But the most important fact to keep in mind is that Antiochus was a Greek, not an Assyrian.

    As to the argument based on Daniel 11, it is true that the Antichrist and his armies will not enter modern day Jordan. But the reason given is that the area will be “rescued out of his hands” (Daniel 11:41). That doesn’t sound like a voluntary decision to refrain from invading the area. Rather, it sounds like God prevents the Antichrist from invading Jordan — and for good reason, since the Bible indicates this will be the land of refuge for the Jewish remnant when they flee Israel in the middle of the Tribulation (Revelation 12:13-17).

    Additional Qualifications

    Besides asserting that the Antichrist must be an Assyrian, VanKoevering also says he must be a “prince” and “the King of Babylon.”

    The prince requirement is taken from Daniel 9:26 which says the Antichrist will be a prince. The King of Babylon idea comes from Isaiah 14:4ff where a taunt against the King of Babylon is presented. As the King of Babylon is described in detail, he clearly morphs into a description of Satan. VanKoevering claims it is also a description of the Antichrist.

    Having established what he believes are three requirements for the Antichrist — that he be an Assyrian from Jordan, that he be a prince, and that he be the King of Babylon — VanKoevering then spends the rest of his book trying to prove that the best candidate for the Antichrist is Crown Prince El Hassan bin Talal of Jordan! 2 Prince Hassan is the brother of former King Hussein and was his designated heir to the throne of Jordan until the king changed his mind on his deathbed and gave the throne, instead, to his son, Abdullah II.

    It grieves me that VanKoevering has made this attempt to identify the Antichrist. It is the sort of sensational speculation that has given the whole field of Bible prophecy a bad reputation.

    VanKoevering’s Antichrist Candidate

    Why does he point to Prince Hassan? First, he argues that “the closest genetic relationship of the Assyrians are with the native populations of Jordan and Iraq.”3 But what he overlooks is the fact that the Hashemite royal family of Jordan is not native to either Jordan or Iraq. The family came, instead, from Saudi Arabia. Members of this family were imposed upon the populations of Iraq and Jordan as kings of these nations by Great Britain after World War I. So, Prince Hassan does not even meet the first criterion stipulated by VanKoevering!

    The next qualification of the Antichrist that Hassan is supposed to fulfill is that he carries the title of Prince. This is really irrelevant. When Daniel 9:26 says the Antichrist will be a “prince,” all it is saying is that he will be a political leader. The Bible uses two terms for political leaders — prince and king. The biblical authors could not refer to presidents or prime ministers because those forms of ruling power had not yet developed. Thus, when we are told in Psalm 118:9 “it is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in princes,” we are being warned against putting our trust in politicians. The warning is not limited to those politicians who literally have the title of prince.

    VanKoevering’s third qualification for the Antichrist — that he be the King of Babylon — is, of course, unfulfilled in the life of Prince Hassan. But VanKoevering argues it could become a possibility since one of his Hashemite relatives, King Faisal, was installed by the British as King of Iraq in 1921. King Faisal, the brother of Prince Hassan’s grandfather, King Abdullah, died in 1933. His son, King Faisal II, and all his family were murdered in 1958 when the Iraqi military mounted a coup d’etat.

    VanKoevering believes there is an excellent possibility that the leaders of Iraq will seek to stabilize their nation by inviting Prince Hassan to become king. But that is pure speculation, and there is no indication that the people of Iraq want a king, particularly one that is not even native to their population.

    Nor is there any requirement in Scripture that the Antichrist be the King of Babylon. The passage VanKoevering uses to establish this idea is found in Isaiah 14 where the King of Babylon is presented as a type of Satan himself. That there might be a double application to both Satan and the Antichrist is a real possibility since the Antichrist will be possessed by Satan, but there is no indication in the passage that the Antichrist must be the King of Babylon.

    A similar taunt is presented in Ezekiel 28 against the Prince of Tyre. And like the passage in Isaiah 14, the taunt morphs into a description of Satan that could be applied to the Antichrist. Does that mean the Antichrist must also be the King of Tyre? I think not.

    One final observation about VanKoevering’s book. I believe that 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 teaches that the Antichrist will not be revealed until the beginning of the Tribulation. All attempts to identify him before the Tribulation are a waste of time.

    • Kitti

      This just shows that people with “credentials” are not always right.

      There are other reasons why the antichrist could be Islamic.

    • There is a verse in the Bible that i can’t find, but paraphrasing it says that we will look upon the one who caused all this trouble and think to ourselves “you’ve got to be kidding me” LOL

      Kinda like wizard of oz and behind the curtain is this little guy…or roars like a lion but the size of a dachsund!

  57. I’m posting a video Lyndsey told me about.

  58. This is an very interesting site.

    http://www.beastfromtheeast.org/index.html

    • hi Golda

      Thank you for the link. It looks very informative.

      People talk so much about a peace treaty with Israel as the clue to identifying the antichrist, but cannot see that the only ones who need a peace treaty are the Muslims.

  59. Yes Marianne. There are so many verses that link AC to the Middle East region

    This person Dr David Owuor prophesied in June 10 about the current Korea war it seems.This is his website. He appears to be genuine. The Korea prophecy is on the left.

    http://www.repentandpreparetheway.org/powerful_teachings.htm

  60. http://www.henrymakow.com/queen_elizabeth_bloodline.html

    http://www.juancole.com/2008/02/burkes-peerage-queen-elizabeth-ii.html

    • I am looking for some feed back to this video of Prince Charles of Wales being the anti-christ. I heard about this the other day and looked into it. To say the least I am thoroughly confused now aboout all of this. Can any one person have so many specific things pointing to him as being the antichrist, and it not be right? Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying I think it is Prince Charles. But if it isn’t, I don’t see how we will ever know who the anti christ is until after the fact. I have believed that the ac would come from the middle east. A muslim. After seeing this, I am not sure at all. One thing that I have not heard about Prince Charles is about his date of birth. I have heard some allude to the fact that he was born in 1948, the year of Israel’s independence. But think of the prophecy where Yahshua stated that, starting from 1948, anyone who was alive at that time and lived out the length of an average life, would see the completion of all the things prophesied, up to the point of Yahshua stepping down onto the Mount of Olives. Could Yashua have been speaking of the paramaters of the life of the ac, up until the time of His second coming? Just a question.

      • I think this guy is wrong. The coat of arms does NOT have animals that look like a combo of lion, bear and leopard. A lion and leopard are both cats. Where are the spots of the leopard.? that is a body of a lion, not a leopard. And the lion has lion feet, not bear feet.

        He does not like the eyeball of the lion? He says it is human.? That is his opinion. Also the eye on the queens horse is the same kind of eye, not different. This IS a drawing, not a photo. A horn on a unicorn does not mean someone IS the little horn.

        Prince Charles does not have much authority and power. I think William will get the throne, not him.

        The 3 animals are explained and defined in Daniel 8. He should read that. the beast is a kingdom, not a person.

      • Hey Al
        I watched the video and find it as something we should not dismiss. One thing I didn’t see him talk about is that England was part of the Roman empire. The “Little horn” perhaps. They also have a history of “hating” the Catholic church, the woman riding the beast. I think the nation of Israel will also admire the beast, and I did not know that their bloodlines go back to David.

        I have proposed on the “contact Marianne” Page the concept of a false tribulation. I do not know if this is true or not, but it is in character with the father of all lies. I am beginning to lean towards the Idea that the Muslim antichrist idea is a ruse, to be used by the real antichrist to deceive Israel that he is coming to their rescue. If the US is impotent for whatever reason, then whoever comes to their rescue will be seen as the Messiah. I would really like to hear your opinion on this, as you have been someone who has a different view from others on this sight.

        • Hey Dru,

          Don’t have a lot of time right now, but thought I would get out a short response. I don’t know if you listened to the whole video. It was over an hour long. Toward the end, it was stated that Prince Charles had converted to Islam. If that is the case, and he does end up being the ac, we still have an Islamic ac, while possibly at the head of the EU also. How crazy is that?

          This is all just talk and speculation. But how many have missed their time of visitation because they thought they had it all figured out. We cannot force any certain outcome in all of this and it is foolish to even think along those lines. But I think, given all of the unknowns that are out there, we are to hold tightly to what we know for sure, and for the rest, ponder and meditate and study, to be in a place of readiness and not blindsided by something we have categorically dismissed.

          I dismissed quite a while back all the talk of the EU being at the center of things. I am not embracing that now, but cautiously watching. But the thought of an Islamic EU ruler is mind boggling. When you consider that the muslims are in a place in Britian, to the place where they can just about take over the country through the vote, is very telling. I am talking about a lot of things that I am not very well versed on right now. Just thinking out loud.

          This is a link that speaks to Prince Charles’ possible Islamic conversion:

          http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2003/11/is-prince-charles-a-convert-to-islam

          Be Blessed in the Messiah

          • Al
            I am not writing anything in stone, but the dates we came up with from the bible are trib in 2019-2026. Note that 2012 falls seven years before that. Also 2018 being the year for psalm83 war. Now If this is true, and if endtimes hold two wars, one in 2018, and one that is the Gog war just before end of tribulation, Then couldn’t that first war be used by Ac to “fool” those who could be fooled into thinking he is the messiah? Now I think as the Bible says the real ac will remain hidden until the covenent with many and all this talk of the 12th imam/mahdi, will be someone who appears to be the ac.
            Just look at all the forces that are behind the 2012 concept. Hollywood, the news media, mormons, islamists, Pagan religions, Illuminati, etc. Are they trying to warn us Christians that the ac is coming? or are they trying to deceive people, a diversion, so that when real ac comes, he will appear as the messiah? It just fits together nicely.
            I realize that this is theoretical, and I am not looking to “convert” anyone, but just to warn of this possibility. It just seems like everyone is on the 2012 bandwagon, and have not seen this option. Just file it away as a possibility.
            As for Prince Charles converting into muslim, he will have to appear as muslim to win any respect in the muslim world.

            • Hey Dru,

              I read somewhere that Prince Charles was allowed into a most sacred place that only muslims were allowed into….will have to find that or maybe that was Obama….LOL

              But I do remember reading that prince charles had converted to Islam..

              With the upcoming wedding of Prince William, it would be interesting to look at the guest list :)

            • Hey Dru,

              Concerning 2012 and the world seeming to take the lead on end time events with the believer’s following, this is somewhat common. The story of Yoseph and the Pharoah in Egypt says a lot. Yoseph was a dreamer and he basically had a picture of ultimately what was coming. But not until his ordeal with being sold into slavery and everything that transpired in Egypt, all leading up to a dream that came to “Pharoah”, not Yoseph or any other Hebrew. The dream was meant for Israel not Egypt, but came through Egypt (the world). The same with Daniel interpretting the dream of the King of Babylon. It Came through the world, King of Babylon, for Israel and not for the world.

              This doesn’t mean that the 2012 thing is for real, but I think it is foolish of us to dismiss it because it is coming through the world. We don’t know it’s origin and Yah has moved in ways like this in the past. We will just have to wait and see.

              One of the big things I hear, is that there isn’t enough time for all the things that need to happen, happening in such a short period of time. The question is, what de we really understand versus what we think we understand. Only time will tell on all of this. We just need to be prayerful, vigilant, and watchful, all the while vigoursly debating and discussing these things. Probably buried in everything that is said here (on thie blog and others like it) is a mosaic of what the actual truth is. More than likely, no individual claiming that prize for his or herself. Just a thought…….

              • Al said “Probably buried in everything that is said here (on thie blog and others like it) is a mosaic of what the actual truth is. ”

                I totally agree! :)

              • yes as do I.
                As for the dreams from worldly sources, where is the Daniel or the Joseph interpreting them?

                • Hey Dru,

                  The last scriptures were penned from around 1900 years ago and the O.T. goes way back before that. There is nothing new to be written, just the fulfillment of all that has been written. I believe the world is reacting to what it is seeing and hearing; Distress in just about every economy on a Global basis, national and civil unrest around the world in an unparalled manner, governments being toppled and realigned with shocking speed, science seeing world ending possiblities looming in our near future, global starvation, worldwide pandemics, and no answers for the complex questions that plague the world. Since there is nothing new to be written, aren’t the Daniel’s and Joseph’s of our day, those who give themselves to the word, to have an answer for a world with nothing but questions? And not just the world, but also the vast majority of believer’s who have no understanding about eschatology or the end times. Most actually mock it. I would dare say, that is why many of us are here on this blog. People of like interest tend to come together to interact and discuss things,then going back into their world more well rounded and able to engage the culture around them more effectively.

                  Whether the time of Jacob’s trouble starts in 2012, 2015, or whenever, the wise and those who have decerned the times they are living in, will not be fooled. The fool, on the other hand, will always be unwise. There is nothing any of us can do about that.

                  You do realize, that we who are discussing these things, , are in a huge minority. The vast majority of believer’s don’t believe this stuff. Most don’t even open there bibles. They just want to go about there lives and ignore the truth that is racing towards them.

                  • yes Al that is part of the problem, apathy.
                    Did you ever hear the story of how we can spread the gospel to the world? If 12 of us start in say january, and each tell 12 people a month of the gospel, and then those 144 tell another 12 the next month etc. in nine months time the whole world will have heard the Gospel! 5.15 trillion anyway. Assuming the first twelve continues telling another twelve after the first 12, and so on, we will get there alot quicker. Kind of like the six degrees of separation concept.
                    This concept starts with 12 Christians only, I know there are more than twelve out there.

                  • I guess what I am saying is, if some of us can agree on the Gospel, and make it our mission to have twelve disciples of our own, and then those twelve do the same, All those souls that are in apathy, will at least hear the Gospel, whether they act or not is a question mark. If each person has a success rate of 33%, it would take 13 months to reach the world. Just a thought!!!

                    • Hey Dru,

                      I have a client that I take care of who has a TBI from being hit by a car. He is so very sweet and loves Jesus with he’s got! Everywhere we go he introduces himself and then tells the Jesus loves them and asks them if they have Jesus in their heart. The reaction he gets has been thus far very kind. :)

                      So, needless to say, “joe” (what I will call him) has started your campaign! I told him we could make business cards with Jesus loves you on them with John 3:16 and that he could start handing them out….:)

                    • Lyndsey
                      That is great!, It takes a little more than a buisiness card, but that is a good way to get conversations started.

  61. Maitreya = THE antichrist????

    In the below link, this is a psychic advocating/supporting Benjamin Creme’s statements on the Maitreya’s arrival and is referencing the UFO in Jerusalem that hovered over the Mosque….”maitreya is a great spiritual avatar and friend and brother to humanity”…..”justice and peace to all humanity”….”hear and consider “blah blah blah…

    Before viewing this garbage just plead the blood of Jesus over your mind-I believe this is very important.

    *remembering the video of Billy Crone speaking on UFOS and the one world religion

    Folks are buying into this LIE. They are connecting the UFOs with the Maitreya (AC ?)! AND are connecting the “signs and miracles” of the Maitreya with the Catholic Church!! HELLO!

    Jews are expecting their Messiah to arrive any day-a Rabbi has made the statement that the Messiah is already with them!
    Muslims are expecting their Mahdi to arrive any day.
    New Agers are declaring that their Maitreya has arrived and will appear very soon!

    Is the Jewish Messiah/Muslim Mahdi and New Ager Maitreya the same person? THE Anti-Christ!!

    What was that ball of light (taken from many different angles and covered by CNN) that hovered over the mosque in Jerusalem? Was this the abomination or the preview to it?

    Christians know the truth….Luke 21:28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

    • Hi Lyndsey
      I have been thinking many times also that things go forward too fast, so much remains still unfinished. Maybe the father of lies developes at first a fake antichrist and when people finally see that he is a fake and not Christ they are more ready to accept real antichrist as the saviour. There is too much disinformation about comet Elenin, looks like antichrist coming quickly. If Elenin does not fulfill all the signs of revelation there is HAARP and some other features in the backpocket to make Revelation “to happen”.
      There are also plenty of heavenly signs for September. Earlier discussed is Elenin in the mouth of constellation Leo blowing trumpet (tail) straight towards earth 9/28. Also at the same dates Rev.12 happens in the sky. Sun in Virgo, moon at her feet,Venus and Saturn have conjunction in the womb of Virgo and 9/29 Venus (Lucifer) pulls out from between Virgo’s legs as if birth to red dragon. However I feel still something is missing. NLE event in May will clarify a lot. If nothing special happens then a lot will happen in the fall. 911 will be probably celebrated 11.22.11 by its originators. Elenin backwords is ninele(ven). And similarities between murders between Lincoln and Kennedy show certain patterns are repeated. Somebody just gave the hint to an unknown scientist to get the name right.

      • Seppo
        Just out of curiousity, what else do you think needs to happen before the tribulation. I have my answers, but am curious to see yours.

      • seppo, you said “Earlier discussed is Elenin in the mouth of constellation Leo blowing trumpet (tail) straight towards earth 9/28. Also at the same dates Rev.12 happens in the sky. Sun in Virgo, moon at her feet,Venus and Saturn have conjunction in the womb of Virgo and 9/29 Venus (Lucifer) pulls out from between Virgo’s legs as if birth to red dragon.”

        You mean to tell me that the signs in the heavens that are listed in Revelation 12 are happening on 9/28/2011?!!

        Feast of Trumpets/Rosh HaShanah occurs on 9/29/2011! They will begin the Feast on 9/28/2011 (this Holy day has 2 days at the beginning)!

        5772 Jewish Calendar Year (240 Dropped in 135 AD) = 2011 – 2012

        Thu. 29 September 2011 Rosh HaShanah – Feast of Trumpets

        Sat. 8 October 2011 Yom Kippur – Day of Atonement

        Thu. 13 October 2011 Sukkot – Feast of Tabernacles

        http://www.moresureword.com/FeastDates.htm

        Are you SURE…POSTIVE that what is written in Rev 12 is happening on 9/28/2011?

        • The Revelation
          of St. John the Divine
          12

          The Woman and the Dragon
          1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: Gen. 37.9
          2 and she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. Mic. 4.10
          3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, Dan. 7.7 and seven crowns upon his heads.
          4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: Dan. 8.10 and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

          http://www.bartleby.com/108/66/12.html

          Download stellarium free here:http://stellarium.org/

          http://www.rapture5770-5775.com/signsintheheavens.htm

          This is the layout of the eclipses discovered by Mark Biltz.

          The following is from his webpage.

          The sabbatical year 5775 starts on 9/25/14 and runs to 9/13/15. Obviously some of the eclipses are before and after the sabbatical year; the first and last total lunar eclipses are “outside of and bookend” the sabbatical year. I have never stated all the eclipses were in the sabbatical year.

          I also never said there was a blood red moon that was part of a tetrad in 1948. I said it was in 1949 and 1950. In regards to whether or not the eclipses were viewable in Israel, we have to realize the signs are for the nations, all of them. Maybe having them seen in different parts of the world is so that no one is left with an excuse. I’m sure if they were only seen in Israel someone would say then it doesn’t pertain to the nations!

          Lu 21:24-28 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, thenlook up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

          Regarding knowing “the day or the hour” scenario. I do not set dates and will not set dates. Closely looking at a span of roughly 530 days is not date setting. First I would like to ask, what do you think this verse refers to in the many events that will unfold during the tribulation? Does it refer to the day the tribulation begins, or when the antichrist is revealed or when Messiah’s feet land on the Mt of Olives, or the rapture and on and on? Does this verse require us to put blinders on? I do know that the biblical holidays are the exact days when certain events have happened (the Passover lamb, Messiah is the First Fruits, Shavuot or Feast of Weeks is Pentecost) and will happen; but through every year’s cycle of feasts, we don’t know if it is a rehearsal or if it will be the real thing.

          Why would he give us this forewarning that “there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars” if we are not supposed to study it and know? If we don’t know the biblical calendar then we will remain clueless as to what God is doing. Get my feast dvd’s to understand what each fall feast was a rehearsal for!

          Pastor Mark Biltz http://www.elshaddaiministries.us/stipulation.html

          • This stellarium software is SO COOL!!! It shows you what the constellations are doing on a specific date and from which Country…if you go to the bottom of the screen and also to the left, you can figure out what to do-I put in Jerusalem and 9/28/2011 and it showed me how the constellations line up….only I can’t figure out what it is showing me.

            Marianne, James, Dru, Seppo, Al, Leatherneck…can anyone download this thing and tell me what they see!

            • http://stellarium.org/screenshots.html

            • OK Lindsey,
              I downloaded the program and it works similarly to my Starry Night program which is even more powerful, but not free.
              Anyway, this is a nice program and it only took a few minutes to figure out the main features.
              As for what it is showing you I’m not sure what you were expecting. It obviously shows the stars and constellations which never change, plus the sun and planets which move across the starry background.
              I couldn’t find comet Elenin as it may not be programmed in yet.
              If you are familiar with the night sky and how the stars move as the earth rotates and revolves around the sun and how the planets travel around the ecliptic, the display will be familiar territory. Its like looking at a map of the US. If you are familiar with the states and various cities, you will know what you’re looking at. So if you are trying to track a UPS shipment across the country, you won’t have any trouble knowing where the truck is located and which direction it is headed.
              Otherwise, you might as well be looking at a road map of the moon.
              And in order to really make sense out of it all you will have to have a good working knowledge of astronomy and the solar system. Otherwise its like using Photoshop with no knowledge of photography.
              As for Seppo’s description below, it is pure imagination. It sounds like he is trying to link these events to Revelation 12, but this happens every year at this time. Much of what he says sounds like astrological soothsaying which God warns us not to follow.
              So I’m not sure what you hoping for with the program. It would be cool if we could dial up a date and see the Lord returning in the clouds, but I’m afraid it is will only look like so much astronomical mumbo-jumbo to most people. One thing is for sure, you won’t ever see anything “amazing” or “incredible” or anything biblical in design, unless you have an overactive imagination and are prone to making up fanciful stories.
              If you want to get anything useful out of the program it is going to take quite a bit of time and work.
              But it will be worth it, so get studying! :)

  62. Hi Lyndsey
    You gave a very good hint. So far I have tried to find info from different Internet pages but stellarium gives a lot more accurate picture. Thank you.
    I tell what I see and you may judge what it means.
    Woman clothed with the sun. The sun is on the woman’s clothing from shoulders 9/21 until close end of october untill the bottom of her dress. And moon is under her feet 9/29 -9/30. Jupiter (Zadek) is all this time in Aries (interesting). Mercury plays also an important role. (I cannot find it in the Bible. According to mythologi it was in Babylon known as son of Marduk. Nibiru was also called Marduk in ancient writings and sometimes as Mercury. Elenin is now called also as Nibiru. In Greece Mercury was known as a messinger of gods and in Rome as the god of trade and profit). Comet Elenin is in alignment with earth 9/26-28. 9/27 Mercury and Moon are in the same alignment strengthening each other. Even if Elenin’s visible tail does not extend to the earth its electromagnetic tail extends. During the night 9/29-30 Venus and Saturn (Kronos) have conjunction I (might call it having sex but it is probably a sideline and Virgo is being with other child. After having sex with “Time” the red dragon” (Lusifer, Venus) is ready to stand before the woman. Generally I understand it so that both have to be at the same level of standing. Venus reaches the level of Virgo’s feet 10/17-18 and its tail is Mercury in close approximity. If you pull something it can be called your tail. After a few days this tail starts bending down towards earth and about 11/10 its showing towards the earth and starts again climbing up and somewhere 11/20-25 it’s again behind Venus following it. The behaviour of Mercury on its orbit looks like it swings towards the earth. (That gives a hint of economic down turn based on mythology and this thought is not based on the Bible. General knowledge is anyway of a new strong down turn).
    Looking at this schedule further with that of Elenin 10/16 Elenin is closest to the earth which is about the time when dragon is standing before the woman according to my understanding.
    When Dragon’s tail Mercury has reached almost its top turning towards earth, earth hits the debris of Elenin’s tail 11/6 and 11/13 Elenin- earth- mercury-Venus are aligned and finally 11/22 sun-earth-elenin are aligned. So early November this analysis expects stars falling from the sky as a result of dragon’s tail waiving as Revelation tells.
    I saw some estimate of the size of elenin- 4-5 km, I don’t regard it as reliable yet. If it is small, NOW takes care of disasters.
    Iregard this whole thing as the message from the Lord that everything is under his control but not as any final sign of anything. Kind of foretaste of something still to come.

    • Hey Seppo,

      Thank you for that description…..no easy task I am sure ;)

      When I first watched the Star of Bethlehem by Rick Larson, I was simply awestruck. And then when I came across Rev 12 I remembered what was found by Rick Larson in Star of Bethlehem! This software that he has, which may or may not be stellarium is able to track the stars and how they allign on certain dates. Even going as far back as when Jesus was BORN no less and figuring out the STAR of BETHLEHEM that was there as a SIGN/Signal for the Wise Men (who were astronomers by modern terms)

      After what Rick found, I am now convinced that G-d is letting us know when these things will happen if we “LOOK UP” and “see” per se what He is telling us in the sky/heavens :)

      I just wish I could understand it….I don’t…so I put it out there for anyone who is familiar with astronomy….

    • hi Seppo

      DO you have any pictures demonstrating what you are talking about?

      • Hey Marianne,

        Download sterralium software (its free) and it will show you the pictures he is talking about. You click at the bottom where is says “art”.

        Basically what the software does is shows you where the stars are in the sky on any given night and then you click on “art” to see “draco”…etc…

        Download stellarium free here:http://stellarium.org/

        I think this is the same software that Rick Larson used

      • Hi Marianne
        All dates and events I picked up from stellarium sky program as I saw them in the rotating sky. I noticed that I had to find also a handbook for it to learn to use it, it is over 100 pages and very useful in pdf format. After having analyzied the sky I picked up the dates for Elenin for comparision from

        http://theendtimesarehere.com/tag/comet-elenin/

        I did not change any of the dates picked up to get a better match with Elenin.

  63. Actually who were the people that placed the blasphemy on the wall of the temple mount that God had no son

  64. Just found this video on Steve Quayle’s website. I am sure we will see shortly if all of this will play a part in paving the way for the ac!

  65. Hi Marianne,

    Reading a lot on your website and find some subject very interresting. However the object of who is the antichrist – I would say many is falling from the wagon. By looking at a certain church’s actions, presentaions in and outside the church as well as the fact that some people calls the Pope a God one can no longer guess or look further as the Roman Catholic church in Rome.
    Why?:
    1. The times and days of the week was changed by the Roman Catholic church.
    2.The Church is full of satin’s signs in and outside the church.
    3. People calls the Pope a god grater than my God.
    4.The Pope is not using a Christanity Bible.
    5.The Pope as more say in the world today than any other country leader.

    I can go on and on but at the end it is everybody’s own perseption of who is who in this case.
    My information came from Prof. Walter Veith.

  66. Hi Marianne,

    I think you should ask that question to Proffesor Walter Veith himself. He was a Roman Catholic who realised that what stands in their Bible does not correspond with what the Christian Bible teach us. He has his own website where you can find a lot of very interresting information and also video material.

    Heleen

    • I wont take much about what the Prof says, he claims a lot but put his own spin in it – not a reliable source

  67. http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/doctrine/royal_bloodlines_run_deep.htm

  68. http://www.juancole.com/2008/02/burkes-peerage-queen-elizabeth-ii.html

  69. Who Da Man? You Decide…

    There are so many comments and guesses about who the Antichrist person will be; you needn’t guess anymore, he was chosen and anointed in 1983 as a 23 year old college student by the Rothschild/Black Nobility group. He was “secretly” schooled in multiple schools; fully taught and indoctrinated in papal Romanism/satanic Luciferianism/and in Sunni-Islam. He was personally tutored in foreign policy, global politics, global banking, and in Black Nobility financial matters by the very people that have run and controlled all world governments for the Rothschild, primarily since 1976. He is a disciple and previous active teleporting jump-member of the “secretive” US DARPA group. He was specifically groomed for two “future” world Leader roles; he occupies his first role currently; and, he will be “enthroned” in the latter (according to the Black Nobility/Vatican Jesuit-Illuminati), possibly as soon as Dec. 21, 2012; or, soon thereafter. His final role will be that of 9th UN Secretary General. Ban Ki Moon is currently the 8th UN Secretary General. What some people are missing when they begin searching for this person, is that they always start in the Book of Daniel to try and find him; that is not where the Antichrist story starts; it starts in Genesis 10:6-12; in Babylon; with a man named King Nimrod; who at that time, fully pursued a One-world Kingdom; One-world Leadership; One-world Religion; One-world Monetary System; One-world Language; and a One-world without God to Rule over them. Secular and Cult history both record his Nimrodian Kingdom as the “Old World Order.” Nimrod’s Kingdom was satanically possessed; it was totally anti-God and pagan. His [former prostitute] wife/Queen named Semiramis is the very person that all post Noahic Flood ancient and modern day religions can attribute some, or all of their religious [unholy and un-Godly] rituals to; since she personally was tasked by her King husband, to start the Royal [Nimrodian] Kingdom religion. They worshipped the chief goddess of the Sea, and of fertility; her name was “Mari.” In Spanish, the word for the Sea is “Mar.” Queen Semiramis’ Royal [pagan] priesthood was called the [Cybeles] Cy-bel-es. In their very name, was loosely hidden, the name of the very one they “really” worshipped as part of their “Mari” worship – her lover/consort, Bel himself. Bel, Baal, Dagon, Neptune, Poseidon; all these are ancient names for Satan. Now, the Bible tells us that Nimrod was “a Mighty hunter before the LORD.” The actual translation would be broken into two combining sentence groupings [“a Mighty hunter”] and [“before the LORD”]; I’ll explain more below. Some of King Nimrod’s personal background must also be uncovered as well, in order to tell the full [future Antichrist] story; let’s start.

    1. Nimrod was a “Renegade” King. Renegade means: an individual who rejects lawful or conventional behavior; or, is a “Lawless One.”
    2. Nimrod was the son of Cush, the grandson of Ham, the great-grandson of Noah.
    3. After the Flood, Ham moved from present-day Iraq, to the area of Canaan [present day Israel]; Cush moved south, into eastern Africa, in what today would be the areas of Ethiopia and Kenya.
    4. Living in the land of Cush; Nimrod would a have been a “prince” in his [King] father’s Cushite Kingdom; thus, he would have been self-proclaimed royalty.
    5. Secular history records that Nimrod was a “hunter of men.” A term that came from his sick and demented use of trained “royal leopards” to chase down men for the pure sport; much like falconers use falcons to hunt small game.
    6. At a young age, Nimrod, a dark-skinned eastern African person, left the land of Cush [Ethiopia and Kenya], and went north, back to the homelands of his ancestors in Canaan [present day Israel], then proceeded east of Canaan, to what was then called the Plains of Shinar [today, that would be back to central Iraq]. There he met a local prostitute named Semiramis, and that is where he chose to start his own kingdom of Babel [Ba-bel]; again, his hero-god is in the very name; Bel.
    7. The Bible records Nimrod being not only being a Mighty hunter, but one that was also “before the LORD.” This is a term to indicate a rude, indignant, arrogant, self-centered person that wanted to get in God’s face. That was the primary purpose for building a Tower to reach into the heavens; into the clouds; the place where the God of Heaven resided. That is where we also get today’s very arrogant statement; “getting in your face” comes from.

    Some Personal Info about the ancient Babylonian King [Nimrod I]:

    A. His name was “Nimrod”
    B. He was a “Renegade”
    C. He was a “Prince”
    D. He became a “King”
    E. He was a “rude, indignant, arrogant, self-centered person”
    F. He was “satanically backed, empowered, and eventually possessed”
    G. He was totally “anti-God”
    H. He was a “One-World Leader advocate”
    I. He was a “One-World Kingdom advocate”
    J. He was a “One-World Religion advocate”
    K. He was a “One-World Monetary System advocate”
    L. He was a “One-World Self-Rule [without God] advocate”
    M. He was a “Hunter of Men”

    Some Personal Info about [Nimrod II vs. Nimrod I]:

    In order to have the whole story, you must go back before Daniel; back to Genesis as I’ve indicated previously, because the last world Empire will mimic the first historical world Empire in very similar ways. So when Daniel gives us 4 kingdoms; a winged lion; a bear with ribs in its mouth; a 4 headed leopard; and a 4th beast that was extremely terrible; we don’t need to guess who those are; the Bible and history tell us that they are in fact; [1] Nebuchadnezzar’s Babylon; [2] Conquered Babylon/by the Medes and Persians; [3] Conquered Medo-Persians/by Alexander the Great/Greece; [4] Conquered Greece/by the Romans/under Rome I. But later in Daniel, we are told about a “prince” that is to come [representing the Roman Empire]; and “the people of the prince” [those that will be followers of the Roman Empire]. We know that that “prince” and “the people of the prince” were on the scene [first] in 70 AD with [“prince”] General Titus and the Romans [he destroyed the City of Jerusalem, and the Temple]; and [second], in 135 AD with [“prince”] General Hadrian and the Romans [he destroyed the City of Jerusalem, and took [into captivity] the nation of Israel; into the slave markets of the world. They were gone from their land until May of 1948, when they became a nation again.
    So, when we fast forward to find the final World Kingdom Leader; we should be looking for similarities to Nimrod I and Rome I, because the Bible tells us in the Book of Revelation 17:9-13, that in the End Times, one of the seven kings [actually, the 7th King], will himself also be an 8th King; or, in essence, one man, but two separate positions of global power. We know from the Bible, that all prophecy “must deal” with the historical and Biblical Jewish nation, and the major world Empires that have dealt with that same Jewish nation. Once you have those, you can easily proceed. Now, going into the Book of Revelation 17:9-13 we see that we actually have to identify [not] 4 kingdom Empires like in Daniel; but, we must actually find 7 kingdom Empires first; then we must find the [final] 8th; also, all of them have to have had, or will have, control over the Jewish nation of Israel. So again, the Bible and history tell us that those 7 kingdom Empires that have been associated with the nation Israel are [1] Egypt – ~1876 BC to 1446 BC; [2] Assyria – ~700 to 600 BC-10 Tribes; [3] Babylonian – ~586 BC to 532 BC-2 Tribes; [4] Medo/Persians – ~532 BC to 516 BC-2 Tribes; [5] Grecian – ~400 BC to 200 BC; and [6] Rome I – ~200 BC to 135 AD. Historically, Rome I was never conquered, they simply disintegrated under the weight of Fascist power, Senate struggles, Economic oppression and depression, great Immorality, an underfunded and weakened Military; and, unfettered and unlawful Taxation.

    Fast Forward to 2012

    Today, we have the Rothschild/Vatican and the Black Nobility. Collectively, they own upwards of 85% of the entire known wealth on the planet. The Rothschild is the head of the Black Nobility; they are behind the purposeful destruction of the entire global economy. The Rothschild alone, in 2000, had a gold bullion cache worth $500 Trillion US dollars; in 2008, it was $750 Trillion US dollars; and today in 2012, they have $1,000 Trillion US dollars of gold bullion. That isn’t due a “net gain” in gold value; it is a “physical gain” in actual gold bullion taken. The Rothschild tells everyone on the planet what they will and will not do. The Rothschild’s right hand syndicate, the Black Nobility then decides who runs what, where, and when. They control the UN, the New World Order, Our office of US President; our US House and Senate; the US Supreme Court; all Federal Circuit Courts, and all State Supreme Courts; our entire US Military, all US Military Equipment, and our entire US Nuclear Arsenal; all major US Industries; all major US Law Firms; all major US Insurance Companies; all major US Healthcare Providers; all our US Seaports, Waterways, Lakes, Rivers, Streams, City and Municipal Water Wells; all underground City and Municipal Water Aquifers; all US Mountain Snow Loads; all major US Farms/Ranches and major US Food Production/Processing and Distribution Companies; all major Gun and Ammunition Production and Distribution Companies; all Wildlife; all Sea/Land/and Air Transportation Companies; all Crop Seeds; all major Oil/Gasoline and Home Heating Oil Companies; all major Real Estate and Home Financing Companies; all major Banking Corporations; all US Stock Exchanges; all Federal/State/and City Police Forces; all City/Municipal/County/and State Airports/Highways/secondary and rural roads; and all “land and mineral rights” to any and all “private” property (any private property not given up freely to Federal authorities, will be taken by the process of imminent domain). The Black Nobility and the Vatican answer to the Rothschild. The Black Nobility motto is as follows: “We are the Black Nobility, not black as in color, black as in evil.” The 13 [main] Group syndicate of the Black Nobility are all avowed Freemasons/Illuminati/Atheists/Egyptian-Babylonian Pagans/Raelians/Satanists/Luceferians. The Rothschild Banks hold the entire wealth of the Vatican; and someday soon, will even take even “that” wealth, and then proceed to destroy the City of Rome, and the Vatican in particular, with what seems to appear to be a nuclear explosion/or, HAARP generated lightning? [The Bible says, “with Fire from heaven”] and they “will eat her flesh”- they will fully bankrupt her, aka: take her wealth; Book of Revelation 17:16 [if it is nuclear, it will then be just like in the Hollywood movie, “Angels and Demons,” but on the ground, not in the air]; that is why the Vatican has chosen to move its headquarters [very soon] moving itself “politically” and “sovereignly” from the City of Rome, to the City of Jerusalem [The Story link: March 16, 2009 — http://www.thetrumpet.com/?q=6033.4423.0.0%5D.

    Now, for the person called Nimrod II:

    A. Today he is a CFR-Council of Foreign Relations/Freemason/Illuminati/Sunni-Muslim/Luciferian
    B. His CFR-Council of Foreign Relations Code name is [honestly] “Nimrod”
    C. His Political Code name is [honestly] “Renegade”
    D. He has always been [rumored] to be from the ancient lands of “Cush; from Kenya”
    E. Today, as a global G7 Leader, he would be regarded as a main global “Prince”
    F. Very soon, as a UN-One World [Sovereign] Leader, he will be regarded and “enthroned” as a global “King”
    G. Today, this person is considered by many, as a “rude, indignant, arrogant, self-centered person”
    H. Today, he is [satanically-BN] “backed and empowered; and [per the Bible] will eventually be possessed”
    I. In his speeches, his actions, his laws, and in YouTube videos about him, he is totally “anti-God”
    J. In his speeches, his actions, his laws, and in YouTube videos about him, he [truly] hates Christianity
    K. In his speeches, his actions, his laws, and in YouTube videos about him, he will not talk-down Islam
    L. As a member of the Rothschild/BN/Vatican/UN-NWO; he would become the Leader of the United Nations
    M. As a member of the Rothschild/BN/Vatican/UN-NWO; he is a “One-World Government advocate”
    N. As a member of the Rothschild/BN/Vatican/UN-NWO; he is a “One-World GAIA-Green Religion advocate”
    O. As a member of the Rothschild/BN/Vatican/UN-NWO; he is a “One-World IMF Monetary System advocate”
    P. As a member of the Rothschild/BN/Vatican/UN-NWO; he is a “One-World [Sovereign] Leader advocate”
    Q. As a member of the Rothschild/BN/Vatican/UN-NWO; he is a “One-World Self-Rule [without God] advocate”
    R. The Kingdom he will represent, today is called the UN-New World Order.
    S. As a member of the Rothschild/BN/Vatican/UN-NWO; and because he will be the prophesied Biblical AC, he will definitely be a [ruthless, uncaring, and unmoved] “Hunter of Men”
    T. As the Sovereign Leader of Rome II [New World Order], he would oversee it as a global conquering group; going out to conquer; and they would setup the planet to be disintegrating under the weight of a totally Fascist power, with Senate struggles, major Economic oppression and depression, national [great] Immorality, an underfunded and weakened Military; and also, unfettered and unlawful Taxation.

    So you decide; is Nimrod II anything like Nimrod I? The Bible says that the “Beast” [the spirit that will possess the Beast] will come “up” out of the “Abyss” [from Tartarus] – from the place between Hades and Hell; located in the vertical space of the Great Gulf; and will eventually go to [his] destruction [to Hell]; thus, we know that he will be possessed by a satanic spirit; actually the same spirit that possessed Nimrod I; Satan.

    But, God Rules; the Rapture will be soon; the only question is … will you be ready to vacate the current premises, for a Heavenly Home, or will you choose to meet Nimrod II?

    • the masonic illuminati etc are not descendant nimrod deceptive. which is a tool of the antichrist, genocide was a seed planted in the minds of son of ham and shem by media influence. you tell me who is the man. anyone can be the antichrist.
      Romans 2
      2 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. 2 We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. 3 Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself

      • Joshua 10
        13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped,
            until the nation took vengeance on their enemies.
        Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day. 14 There has been no day like it before or since, when the Lord heeded the voice of a man, for the Lord fought for Israel.

    • jasher 7
      30 And Nimrod became strong when he put on the garments, and God gave him might and strength, and he was a mighty hunter in the earth, yea, he was a mighty hunter in the field, and he hunted the animals and he built altars, and he offered upon them the animals before the Lord.

      31 And Nimrod strengthened himself, and he rose up from amongst his brethren, and he fought the battles of his brethren against all their enemies round about.

      32 And the Lord delivered all the enemies of his brethren in his hands, and God prospered him from time to time in his battles, and he reigned upon earth.

      33 Therefore it became current in those days, when a man ushered forth those that he had trained up for battle, he would say to them, Like God did to Nimrod, who was a mighty hunter in the earth, and who succeeded in the battles that prevailed against his brethren, that he delivered them from the hands of their enemies, so may God strengthen us and deliver us this day.

      34 And when Nimrod was forty years old, at that time there was a war between his brethren and the children of Japheth, so that they were in the power of their enemies.

      35 And Nimrod went forth at that time, and he assembled all the sons of Cush and their families, about four hundred and sixty men, and he hired also from some of his friends and acquaintances about eighty men, and be gave them their hire, and he went with them to battle, and when he was on the road, Nimrod strengthened the hearts of the people that went with him.

      36 And he said to them, Do not fear, neither be alarmed, for all our enemies will be delivered into our hands, and you may do with them as you please.

      37 And all the men that went were about five hundred, and they fought against their enemies, and they destroyed them, and subdued them, and Nimrod placed standing officers over them in their respective places.

      38 And he took some of their children as security, and they were all servants to Nimrod and to his brethren, and Nimrod and all the people that were with him turned homeward.

      39 And when Nimrod had joyfully returned from battle, after having conquered his enemies, all his brethren, together with those who knew him before, assembled to make him king over them, and they placed the regal crown upon his head.

      40 And he set over his subjects and people, princes, judges, and rulers, as is the custom amongst kings.

      41 And he placed Terah the son of Nahor the prince of his host, and he dignified him and elevated him above all his princes.

      42 And whilst he was reigning according to his heart’s desire, after having conquered all his enemies around, he advised with his counselors to build a city for his palace, and they did so.

      43 And they found a large valley opposite to the east, and they built him a large and extensive city, and Nimrod called the name of the city that he built Shinar, for the Lord had vehemently shaken his enemies and destroyed them.

      44 And Nimrod dwelt in Shinar, and he reigned securely, and he fought with his enemies and he subdued them, and he prospered in all his battles, and his kingdom became very great.

      45 And all nations and tongues heard of his fame, and they gathered themselves to him, and they bowed down to the earth, and they brought him offerings, and he became their lord and king, and they all dwelt with him in the city at Shinar, and Nimrod reigned in the earth over all the sons of Noah, and they were all under his power and counsel.

      46 And all the earth was of one tongue and words of union, but Nimrod did not go in the ways of the Lord, and he was more wicked than all the men that were before him, from the days of the flood until those days.

      47 And he made gods of wood and stone, and he bowed down to them, and he rebelled against the Lord, and taught all his subjects and the people of the earth his wicked ways; and Mardon his son was more wicked than his father.

      48 And every one that heard of the acts of Mardon the son of Nimrod would say, concerning him, From the wicked goeth forth wickedness; therefore it became a proverb in the whole earth, saying, From the wicked goeth forth wickedness, and it was current in the words of men from that time to this.

      49 And Terah the son of Nahor, prince of Nimrod’s host, was in those days very great in the sight of the king and his subjects, and the king and princes loved him, and they elevated him very high.

      50 And Terah took a wife and her name was Amthelo the daughter of Cornebo; and the wife of Terah conceived and bare him a son in those days.

      51 Terah was seventy years old when he begat him, and Terah called the name of his son that was born to him Abram, because the king had raised him in those days, and dignified him above all his princes that were with him.

  70. Nimrod was a hunter of men…Islamic hunters of men and they hate women and their desires are not to women but to Muhammed and the demi-god allah, and why fast forward from Hadrian whose temple to Jupiter was destroyed and replaced with the present day abomination of desolation, the Dome of the Rockm Islamic, straight to 1948 when the hunters of men Islam consumed the land of Judah renamed Philistia/Palestine and the Cradle of Christianity and the Byzantines etc for 1400 years, consumed and hunted and still hunts men making it impossible in all Muslim lands to live and work without death, slavery, submission (dhimmitude identical to Hitlers bands for Jews) or the mark of Islam. Muslims DO NOT mingle with the seed of men, they may never mix and wherever they go they seek to build Sharia and submission and the last slavers of this last day. It is most defintely the beast and the attempted mixture with mankind today. Islam is made up of the countries of Daniels Statue and no doubt has the whore of Catholicism Rome or UN that is consumed by Islam riding her and hates just as John describes in Revelation it has slaughtered Christians, Jews and all who do not bear the mark of servitude and submission to Islam. I can’t understand the willful blindness to the last 1400 years of terrible history of Islamism and its’ vile pedophile prophet and teachings as well as its restoring (goofy arab spring of media) of the head of the Caliphate after the destruction of the Ottomans head that is as John said theTurks ‘Satans Seat’ Where Islam was ruled and is attempting the rising of the Islamists Caliphate again. They are the Nations with Russia who hate Jews and Christians and seek their anhialation and only a sixth of them will be left as Ezekiel describes when they come up for this last battle against Israel and all of us who do not have the mark of Islam. The Euphrates is indeed dry and the way of Islams’ kings of the east have come forth and the locusts prepare for the last battle of this age that entail much more than the foolish doctrines that were based in blind replacement theology and poofy dissappearances theories because we are all here to choose in this valley of decision Who we will stand by and whether we are the Sword of God that will be used in judgement against those who hate so many on the earth! The judgement of the Gentile Nations is already begun since 1948 – 1967. We don’t need anymore theories or doctrines of men because the facts and realities are already before us. Islam and the UN whore has already thought more than an evil thought, they are trying to act on the anhialation and theft of a little 150/300 square mile back acre called His Beloved Israel that God has regathered for the purposes of Glorifing His Name and Sanctifying Israel and all who put their trust in Him, before the Nations.

    • remember this too, that the beast is a kingdom, not a person, and the animal features represent different regions that make up the kingdom.

      Dan 7:23
      Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

      • Glad you mentioned this element Marianne because it is about the Beast and interestingly enough from the diddy about disgustingly silly Prince Charles, it does remind us all of the fact that it was the Brits who destroyed the first head, the Ottoman Empire and promptly restored all of it (gave back its power) to the different Islamic peoples restoring the names of Ezekiel 38 39 to our times, merely another form of the bloody Islamic Empire which is today through the Muslim brotherhood and Al Kaeda restoring the caliphate form so it is still alive though killed. And they have trodden though they do not mix, the known world of the Bible, completely consuming it and trying to mix with the rest of it.

        We should not confuse the translated versions with the original texts of either the old or new testaments and I think we would all be wise to give a listen to Walid Shoebat which I see you have listed here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fE4beY8LjU&feature=related, because I know that Gamatria is not a tool of the Lords.

        I would also like to note that John points out in 1 and 2 John, being the only 5 times in scripture that the term in Greek, Opposite or Opponent of (anti-) and Annointed or Messiah (Christos or Christ) are used without the term ‘the’ infused by translation and that John quite clearly points out in simplest form that those who deny the Father and the Son and who is a liar and denies the Son is Annointed, and let us not forget that in this case he is speaking of apostates who have left them. Taking scripture out of context and out of the original languages or adding a jot or a tittle can be a very dangerous thing. If we would translate precisely opponents of the Annointed though anti-Christ is what was put it belies by not using the Jewish Yeshua or Annointed and using Christos.

        Another note: on the stealing of the Patriarchs tombs by Muslims, it should not surprize us that UNESCO declared them Muslim and Christian because Islam also stole the scriptures and rewrote them while The Pope took what Christ is to the gentiles and the world, position of Mediator to Christ in Heavan while some in Christendom audaciously with Replacement theology stole the place of Israel (as if they could!) thinking they, the grafted Branches, could survive without the root Israel and Branch of Christ, thus taking their names out of the book of Life as John at end of Revelation said would be done to any who committed this abomination. Just as they placed the Abomination of Desolation on the Temple Mount declaring it theirs, which was a terrible document to sign, giving to the Waqf the Temple Mount to control, which is totally ignored by Christendom, who seems to look for a greater abomination to be placed over what held the Holy of Holies and what will have the Third Temple when Yeshua comes to deliver Israel from these terrible Muslims and whore (Eu and UN) that hates her. Can a greater horror be done than the ripping up of the Temple Mount by Muslims in the last 20 years and stoning his children Israel who come to pray while bombing the Hebrew people daily with the world looking on as did the Romans cheering Bloody Islam on! What will it take for G-ds’ children to open their eyes and see that every country named by Ezekiel is Islamic or Russian today and seeks Israels’ anhialation while poor Israel digs in the front line trenches alone except for a few of us Messianist or Christians who support her knowing the Beast and False Prophet of Islam and its bloody whore already sits in place ready to devour Israel again?

        It surely looks like the nature of man does not change for Christendom has committed the same mistake as the Jewish people did 2000 years ago only they have committed it a thousand fold over and denied not only the root that has succoured them and given them the Oracles of God both Old and New Testaments but deny the prophecies that has been lain in front of them for 2000 years of fullfilment while we all and especially poor Israel sits on the brink of war with Islam and its’ oil hungry whore seeking to destroy her and us!

        Daniels’ book is very clear and they have indeed devoured the world Islam and its’ Left wing UN and EU! The sign in Rev is definitely the Beast that has shed the blood of the Saints and Ezekiels, Rev and Daniels descriptions are most apt and show the very countries and people that have done this whether the Papal thousand year rule of slaughter or Islams devouring the whole known world and first seven churches and now work with the countries who are the offsprings of that whore it is clear they have shed the blood of the innocent and the saints for 2000 years! And do we see Babylon falling? Oh yes, watch because the falling stockmarkets and wheeler and dealers that buy and sell with the bloody banks, that is just another element or face of Babylon and just like Daniels statue they shall all be destroyed TOGETHER. And we are all in the middle of it happening. It is not going to happen it has already started, birth pangs end up in a birth!

  71. Sorry it was so long but so many say so much that I have read above and yet it is very simple that we are far closer to the end than a woman in child birth is able to see and yet she does usually know more than anyone where things stand as Israel does. I am sure that the Jews in Israel who are on the front lines of this terrible last day wars and already digging in would tell Christendom more than they would want to hear, and they do if we would only listen to the cries of her in travail. Yeshua returns soon for He is the child she again gives birth to only the Gentiles and many Gentile saved are looking in a different direction.

    • hi marie

      I agree with everything you say. Christians need to wake up to these realities, support Israel, and move out of the babylon church.

  72. Can you identify the Anti-Christ now? or Time is very close to that situation ?
    Terrible days ahead ?

    • hi sunimal

      I cannot identify the antichrist. There are many leaders now who fit the description, since they all have the antichrist spirit. But I do think we are very close to the time he will be revealed.

  73. disire of women is not homosexual the disire of jewish woman is to give birth of the massiah. and anti christ will be a false christian, a trinitarian fake christian. If Jesus is God in the flesh he cannot be another person. a person cannot indewell a person. God is a spirit jn 4 24 that overshadowed Mary and Jesus the Godman was born. divine and human. He did not exhist till the cells began to divide in the womb. william branham had it right.

    • Muhammed and their vile habit of stealing from other religions as they have stolen from Judaiism and Christianity and India and their boasting of their coming Mahdi and the slaughter of the saints for 1400 years with their abomination of desolation sitting on the Holy of Holies I suspect fits the scriptures exactly.

  74. The one guy who really fits the role, Lord Maitreya – he already delcares he is Jesus for the Christians, Muhammed for the Muslims, krisna for the Hare’s, Budda for the Buds etc– he has declared in teh 80’s already that he will reveal himself a the appropriate time as God to the world.

  75. I have a feeling and I could be wrong as two left shoes but I think one of these candidates is the beast and whoever becomes the president this year then it will be revealed that he is the beast of revelation and daniel.

  76. I fill the candidate that wins this race will lead us into the tribulation hour I myself leave a open mind on this so called beast I fill theirs something differently wrong with Obama and at the same time the way I understand it the man will enter with a smooth way about him witch is how Matt sounds and besides he lets it known hes a christian but so does the anti Christ knows the bible and say sweet soft but I due know about the medical chip Obama wants and Matt said he will change it some what but also not due away with it I fill Obama just set the stage for what will come in are vary near future

  77. I know this country is in trouble we need to due more then think of are self’s we need to pray for are bothers and sisters in Christ and for are love ones that aren’t with Christ time is short we due not know what tomorrow will bring if are lord was to come tonight or even now thy would be lost when that medical chip comes out the ones that don’t have Christ in there life’s or cant beleave that this is the stating of 666 will be lost theirs a lot to say on the net about its not theirs a lot that saids it is we need to pray about it ask are lord to guide us tell us what to due and the words to lead are family to him as these are despite times I fill in my heart that this chip is it but people need to fine this answer them self’s Obama got the ball rowing I fill my self there will be three groups of people 1.people that don’t beleave in God or Satan and there are no heaven or hell when you die you die 2 theirs the Christians that due beleave this is the mark or the starting of the mark 3. the ones that will take the mark good way of fingerling out whose is with Christ and who isn’t and the ones he still has a chance to get to turn to him

  78. Subject under Muslim Knowledge
    In The Name of Allah The Most Respect full The Most Gracious
    I am giving you this Azan (a call) to truth and justice and may Allah be my witness in grave
    The so called shitte countdown is not just a belief of Shia brothers but All the Muslims.
    First i should tell you that the Islamic prophecy did not mention any dates or years like you said but your source of information is incorrect. PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE TILL THE END so you would come to know the truth.
    Imam Mehdi: (before appearance)
    >a bird of steel would hit the tallest building (9/11 conspiracy to blame Muslims, rather to be honest every one was killed except any Jew, all of the jews were absent that day)
    >earthquakes and tsunamis
    >All Muslim states would be on war against internal and foreign threats
    >A western general, who could not walk, Canadian born (known as Canatia at ancient times) would bring the forces of west to Kirghizstan (Afghanistan)…..American General, to whom Bush gave the honors to announce that America is attacking Afghanistan had his legs cut off (injured in war) he was born in Canada and he was leader of early troops attacking Afghanistan
    >Meteorites would pass the earth
    >the year before his appearance during time of Hajj, a lot of Blood would be Shed
    >***** the year before his appearance during time of Ramadan there would be 2 lunar and 1 solar eclipse. Lunar would happen on 1st or 2nd than solar on 15th than lunar on 29th or 30th.this hasn’t happened yet. It was just 2 lunar no solar
    >12 people would be present to welcome him in Makah
    Imam Mehdi: (during his time)
    > First not all the Muslims sates would accept him as Imam but soon every Muslim nation would recognize him and help him
    >He would form a group (their flag would be of black color) who would conquer the India (Gazwa Hind)
    >he would stay in Afghanistan and fight the invaders
    >70 nations having more than 70thousand army each would fight him
    >his war prisoners would turn to Islam (not because he would force them but because of his patient and humble nature)
    >the armies would say that they would cease fire if he hands over the prisoners who turned to Islam, but he will reject this offer.
    >he would live for 17-19 years and govern togther with Prophet Isa (Jesus)

    Anti-Christ: (before appearance)
    >the world would have severe droughts
    >Muslims would have conquered a city with river on one side, forest on other and having big boundary walls.
    >he would appear in a place called Yahudia (town in Iran or place in Israel)
    Anti-Christ (During his time)
    >He would live for 40 days (1st compared to 1 year, 2nd compared to 1 month, and 3rd to 1 week, rest 37 would be normal days)
    >he would have the fastest ride
    >he would ride to every town on earth, but could not enter Makah or Medina rather he would camp outside
    >he would have control over every aspect of life and nature (clouds, fertilized lands crops etc.)
    >he would have paradise in one hand and hell in other hand (it would be a deception, reality would be opposite) his heaven would be actually hellfire
    >he would find the lost treasure of Hazrat Sulaeman (buried bellow jursalim)
    >form headquarters in Israel
    >he would have a spiked hair, redneck, born with teeth; he will have lose eyes and could only see from one eye.
    >First he would announce that he is a Prophet later he would say that he is a god. When his time will be near end he would rub his hands and say that Allah I have completed my duty (to challenge the faith of believers)
    >Arabic words (KUFAR) meaning falsehood would be written of his forehead and every believer weather he knows to read or is illiterate would still be able to read and understand.
    Hazrat Isa (Jesus):
    >he would appear in mosque in Syria
    >Hazrat Mehdi would be starting a group prayer when a voice from sky would announce that Isa son of Maryam has appeared. Then people would bring a ladder and he would climb down of the minarets. Imam Mehdi would continue leading the prayer and Hazrat Isa would follow that prayer (namaz).
    >After the prayer Hazrat Isa would order to open the gates of mosque (other side army of Anti would be present)
    >they would be out matched by Prophet Isa’s power
    >when Anti-Christ would come face to face he would know that his time is over so he would try to flee
    >Hazrat Isa would kill him in a place in Israel
    >every tree of a garden in Israel will speak out that a jew is hiding behind me kill him
    >the justice would be restored and there would be no other religion left except Islam
    >Hazrat Isa would live for 40 years, he will get married
    >During those 40 years Gog Macgog tribes would appear and he would pray to Allah to finish them
    >During those 40 years no one will die or even get sick, a child would be safe playing with a snake
    >he would be buried beside Prophet (SWA) in Medina
    >before his death he would announce the next Caliph after who will lead after him.
    These might seem to be fiction at the moment but then again many predictions have come true. Prophet (SWA) said that all the Prophets before me have warned their nations about Anti-Christ, he would be the biggest challenge and deception in the history. He would lie when he says he is prophet because no prophet would come after me and he would lie when he says he is god because Allah is One. He also said that don’t go near him and avoid him if your faith is weak because his deceptions and trick would impress you.
    The war would be of Muslims against the nonbelievers (atheists) I think because Christians would accept Islam as Hazrat Isa would reappear as a Muslim.
    There are 3 kinds of groups:
    1) Who stand for justice 2) the crowd (spectators) 3) who stand against the justice
    I can understand that at this time you won’t like my call, you won’t consider group 1 as your choice. But I request you to be at least in group 2 and act after understanding everything.
    The rules of war set by Prophet (SWA) during his time would be implied this time:
    >no woman or child should be harmed
    >no old person should be harmed
    >no tree or crop should be harmed
    >the killer should not hold any personal grudge
    >anyone who hides should not be harmed
    >anyone who hides in house of Suffyan (Prophets (SWA) former enemy and leader) should not be harmed
    >only defend against those who try to harm you
    It is my Wakeup Call, open call for every one of you, I took this time out to state you the correct events these are also present in ancient Hinduism long before appearance of Islam and also in Christians. But the bible has many versions (tempered by humans) whereas Quran is in its pure state up till now. Please do research before spreading rumors. May Allah show His mercy upon you. And only those can understand the truth who wants to. Please do research on True Islam and Quran and Prophet (SWA)
    And do not believe the fake stories media implies on you.
    Thank you for your patience

  79. When the Prophet had finished his prayer, he sat on the pulpit, smiling, and said, ‘Everyone should stay in his place.’ Then he said, ‘Do you know why I had asked you to assemble?’ The people said, ‘Allah and His Messenger know best.’ “He said, ‘By Allah, I have not gathered you here to give you an exhortation or a warning. I have kept you here because Tamim al-Dari, a Christian man who has come and embraced Islam, told me something which agrees with that which I have told you about the Dajjal. He told me that he had sailed in a ship with 30 men from Banu Lakhm and Banu Judham. The waves had tossed them about for a month, then they were brought near to an island, at the time of sunset. They landed on the island, and were met by a beast who was so hairy that they could not tell its front from its back.
    They said, “Woe to you! What are you?” It said, “I am al-Jassasah.” They said, “What is al-Jassasah?” It said, “O people, go to this man in the monastery, for he is very eager to know about you.” Tamim said that when it named a person to us, we were afraid lest it be a devil.” Tamim said, ‘We quickly went to the monastery. There we found a huge man with his hands tied up to his neck and with iron shackles between his legs up to the ankles. We said, “Woe to you, who are you?” He said, “You will soon know about me. Tell me who you are.”
    We said, “We are people from Arabia. We sailed in a ship, but the waves have been tossing us about for a month, and they brought us to your island, where we met a beast who was so hairy that we could not tell its front from its back. We said to it, “Woe to you! What are you? and it said , “I am al-Jassasah.” We asked, “What is al-Jassasah?” and it told us, “Go to this man in the monastery, for he is very eager to know about you.” So we came to you quickly, fearing that it might be a devil.’
    “The man said, “Tell me about the date-palms of Baysan.’ We said, ‘What do you want to know about them?” He said, ‘I want to know whether these trees bear fruit or not.’ We said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘Soon they will not bear fruit.’ Then he said, “Tell me about the lake of al-Tabariyyah [Tiberias, in Palestine].’ We said, ‘What do you want to know about it?” He asked, ‘Is there water in it?’ We said, ‘There is plenty of water in it.’ He said, ‘Soon it will become dry.’ Then he said, ‘Tell me about the spring of Zughar.’ We said, ‘What do you want to know about it?’ He said, ‘Is there water in it, and does it irrigate the land?” We said, ‘Yes, there is plenty of water in it, and the people use it to irrigate the land.’ “Then he said, “Tell me about the unlettered Prophet ‘ what has he done?’ We said, ‘He has left Makkah and settled in Yathrib.’ He asked, ‘Do the Arabs fight against him?’ We said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘How does he deal with them?’ So we told him that the Prophet had overcome the Arabs around him and that they had followed him. He asked, ‘Has it really happened?’ We said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘It is better for them if they follow him. Now I will tell you about myself. I am the Dajjal. I will soon be permitted to leave this place: I will emerge and travel about the earth. In 40 nights I will pass through every town, except Makkah and Madina, for these have been forbidden to me. Every time I try to enter either of them, I will be met by an angel bearing an unsheathed sword, who will prevent me from entering. There will be angels guarding them at every passage leading to them.’
    Fatima said, “The Prophet striking the pulpit with his staff, said: ‘This is Tayyibah, this is Tayyibah, this is Tayyibah, [ie Madina]. Have I not told you something like this?’ The people said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘I liked the account given to me by Tamim because it agrees with that which I have told you about the Dajjal, and about Makkah and Madina. Indeed he is in the Syrian sea or the Yemen sea. No, on the contrary, he is in the East, he is in the East, he is in the East’ and he pointed towards the East. Fatima said: I memorised this from the Prophet.” (Muslim).

  80. The Antichrist is an arab and probably King Abdullah of Jordan.

  81. there is sure something going on with are government the new healthcare which a lot think is good i don’t Obama is strange cant yet put finger on it I know one thing this country is going down the drain fast and were all in it we better be getting with this before its to late and wake up one day and see the world as a different place and a place must wont what to be

  82. The Man of lawlesness will come out of Türkiye. Have a joyous day.

  83. To put it in simple terms, the Antichrist is known as the “Assyrian” AND from the tribe of Dan, because the Tribe of Dan had been carried off by the Assyrians.

    “For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them; Until the Lord removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day” (2 kings 17:22-23) .

    And there is much historical evidence that the Ancient Assyrians were the germanic peoples that migrated north from Assyria after their captivity:

    Read this interesting article:

    GERMANY AND ASSYRIA ARE THE SAME PEOPLE

    http://sightedmoon.com/germany-and-assyria-are-the-same-people/

    And the modern day “danites” descendants from the tribe of dan are:

    The celts, wales, Ireland, Scotland, Northern England, AS WELL AS the Danish (the Vikings) Norwegians,
    the Swedes, Iceland parts of Germany (The Son of Dan “Hushim” (Genesis 46;23)Where we get the phrase “Hessian soldiers” from the Assyrian Chatti as well as germanic Austrian

    http://www.britam.org/dan.html

    The “Assyrian” Antichrist is not who we have been taught that he is, still living in the middle-east. His ancestors moved north many years ago.

  84. Germany in prophecy

    http://beyondbabylon.blogspot.com/2007/03/germany-in-prophecy.html

  85. Ephesians 6
    12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
    galatians 3
    28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave[a] nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

      • acts 2
        22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— 23 this Jesus,[d] delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men. 24 God raised him up, loosing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it. 25 For David says concerning him,

        “‘I saw the Lord always before me,
            for he is at my right hand that I may not be shaken;
        26 therefore my heart was glad, and my tongue rejoiced;
            my flesh also will dwell in hope.
        27 For you will not abandon my soul to Hades,
            or let your Holy One see corruption.
        28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
            you will make me full of gladness with your presence.’
        29 “Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne, 31 he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God raised up, and of that we all are witnesses. 33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing. 34 For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says,

        “‘The Lord said to my Lord,
        “Sit at my right hand,
        35     until I make your enemies your footstool.”’
        36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”

        37 Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” 40 And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” 41 So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.

      • acts 4
        10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. 11 This Jesus[a] is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.[b] 12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men[c] by which we must be saved.”

        13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus.

            • those that misunderstood where the flesh was and the blood was spilled was made holy what was meant

            • 14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.[h] 15 He shall eat curds and honey when he knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good. 16 For before the boy knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land whose two kings you dread will be deserted. 17 The Lord will bring upon you and upon your people and upon your father’s house such days as have not come since the day that Ephraim departed from Judah—the king of Assyria.”the soul has grace, you’ve been programmed since birth to feed the flesh and their is no excuse to why we behave imperfect if we seek our essence in our lords eyes
              Isaiah 7

          • those that misunderstood where the flood was and the blood spilled by my lord that very place was made holy
            John 17
            2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
            6 “I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. 7 Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. 8 For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. 9 I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them[b] in the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sake I consecrate myself,[c] that they also may be sanctified[d] in truth.

          • those that misunderstood where the flesh was and the blood was spilled was made holy what was meant

      • John 4
        22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

        • psalms 24
          3 Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord?
              And who shall stand in his holy place?
          4 He who has clean hands and a pure heart,
              who does not lift up his soul to what is false
              and does not swear deceitfully.
          5 He will receive blessing from the Lord
              and righteousness from the God of his salvation.
          6 Such is the generation of those who seek him,
              who seek the face of the God of Jacob.[

        • psalms 2
          6 “As for me, I have set my King
              on Zion, my holy hill.”

        • luke 22
          35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. 37 For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” 38 And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.” in that hour and only that hour the righteous shall depart from their enemies(unbelievers) and protect our brothers and sisters in Christ

        • 2 Corinthians 6
          14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 What accord has Christ with Belial?[b] Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said,

          “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them,
              and I will be their God,
              and they shall be my people.
          17 Therefore go out from their midst,
              and be separate from them, says the Lord,
          and touch no unclean thing;
              then I will welcome you,
          18 and I will be a father to you,
              and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
          says the Lord Almighty.”

        • luke 11:34
          Matthew 6
           “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.22 “The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, 23 but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!

          24 “No one can serve two masters,

        • luke 22:35
          let me inform brothers and sisters about this verse. even though our lord allows this. he sympathized with the righteous.if love is perfected in us by faith we know that we all will die by because the world hated us, yet he’s know some of us will be scared and low on faith. thats why he allowed us to do such things for who lives by the sword dies by it but true faith is allowing our lord yet everyone wont be able to recieve the uunderstanding of true faith. i thought i clear this passage

      • Isaiah 41
        10 fear not, for I am with you;
            be not dismayed, for I am your God;
        I will strengthen you, I will help you,
            I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
        11 Behold, all who are incensed against you
            shall be put to shame and confounded;
        those who strive against you
            shall be as nothing and shall perish.
        12 You shall seek those who contend with you,
            but you shall not find them;
        those who war against you
            shall be as nothing at all.
        13 For I, the Lord your God,
            hold your right hand;
        it is I who say to you, “Fear not,
            I am the one who helps you.

  86. Maybe this video will help. The secret is truly “in the mix.”

    His daddy is not from Kenya.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EFCQvvXSwx4

    • few comments

      the word for heaven is shamaiyah…..not bamah

      so lightening from heaven would be barak meen shmaiyah

      also

      we we we is not http://www..that is stretching things….unless everything is code.

      and

      the dollar bill stuff I think is forced…if you twist up the dollar you can imagine all sorts of stuff

      the rest of the video is interesting.

      had to find good videos…..this had some good content

    • i don’t take credit for posting this video just helping

  87. Marianne,

    I’ll keep the conversation going, adding more as we go along on this page. This page topic could draw some attention in the coming weeks.

    1) The currency interpretation is not forced, if you understand that the method of folding (demonic shape/symbol) is applied to each currency note consistently, revealing a unique image/message on the back of each note.

    There are two images (50 and 100 dollar bills) with messages that have yet to occur. We’ll see them occur soon.

    There is no image/message on the One Dollar bill because there already is a message within the Great Seal of the US upon the back of that particular note. This is a very clear and important message. Yet, people are blind to what the message is and it’s implications.

    Do you know any Freemasons or members of the Eastern Star? Have you taken any time to investigate? It is all about building a new world order with a web of conspirators around the world. Get it?

    You told us about a dream involving you going down into a basement with spider webs. You saw Clinton upstairs. So you were acting like a spy or agent (Don Adams, “Get Smart”). Your dreams are filled with symbolism. Devil’s Tower is another.

    You don’t need to answer these questions.

    Who shot Lincoln?

    What did John Wilkes Booth say (in Latin) upon shooting Lincoln?

    The plan for the “new” united states with central banks and central federal government power could not be accomplished with Lincoln. They considered him a “tyrant” (spoken in Latin by Booth). Lincoln was in opposition to the new emerging order (message within the US Seal). They had plans and a schedule to follow. Lucifer is on a tight schedule as we now see coming to a climax.

    Why was JFK shot/killed?

    Was it over the Federal Reserve and printing of currency, federal debt and power?

    So many conspiracies behind the Great Seal of the US, with a methodical, long range systematic plan, building a new world order (666).

    2) The www is what it is by translation.

    The producer of the video (posted above), provides other examples where 666 is referenced as www. His interpretation of 666 as www is not the first. It is a representation of the Beast.

    http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/2011/08/13/666/

    If one understands 666 as a symbolic representation of a systematic construct operated by “the flesh” of men (absent of anything Holy), then one can see the manifestations of The Beast all around us.

    666 can be understood as a construct of man’s vision and within design that is in opposition to God.

    http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/2011/08/13/666/

    Construct: : to build or make (something physical): to make or create (something intellectual such an institution) by organizing ideas, words, etc.

    mathematics : to draw (a shape) according to a set of instructions or rules.

    The Mason’s are at the pinnacle of applying this 666 construct (physical and intellectual) around the world, including NYC and across North America, London and across Britannia, Paris, and Bavaria. The Vatican achieves similar outcomes from the same source – Lucifer.

    http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/category/music/

    “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge” (Hosea 4:6). Here is an example of this verse:

    “How the buildings [Twin Towers] turned to dust before our eyes and why many still can’t put two and two together is astounding. The War on Terror/Terra is literally a War On Consciousness. It has largely shut down critical thinking in large numbers of people” (Scott Onstott).

    3). The falling like lightning interpretation (BHO) is a stretch of language translation and Hebrew poetry.

    This is not necessary, considering the passport and birth certificate investigation of BHO (Soebarkah) and the Subud religious organization. The picture of the founder and leader of Sabud is confirmation of Barry’s biological and spiritual roots. It’s in his blood. Barry is the chosen one.

    Give this some time. I think you’re busy with administration of this blog, responding to emails, forming page topics and other interests.

    We all will know soon enough. I think it is time to prepare our lamps.

    Blessings
    Psalm 27

    • dj

      I understand the reality of the new world order and 666.. I just think the dollar bill manipulation is just that.

      and BHO did not write www. or 666….. he wrote three sentences starting with the words “we” since he felt he was speaking on behalf of the american people.

      the lightening from heaven is a direct mis-translation.

      bamah means “in what”

      i guess the real meat of this video is the name soebarkah….who is his real father and how does it relate to biblical prophecy regarding the ancestry and nationality or religion of the AC

      I always thought the AC would come from the selucid empire, or its lineage, where the little horn emerges

      the selucid empire is now where modern turkey is, but it has had thousands of years to spread since its beginnings.

      did it spread throughout the middle east and eastern countries, where indonesia is?

      it would make sense that the AC who would defile the temple to come, would be the descendant of Antiochus IV , who defiled it the first time.

      so where did the indonesians come from?

  88. If you understand that 9/11 and the Freedom Tower are representations and symbols – then We, We, We written by BHO (Subud rising) can be understood more than simply writing a statement on a beam.

    Public events are a platform for these people.

    Obviously you are not an artist or musician, which impacts your creative thinking and observations (interpretations).

    So – you don’t see www=666 that way. Keep dreaming and maybe thought your dreams eventually seeing with some interpretation.

    Here is some background information in video so that maybe, just maybe you can understand www as 666: “We remember. We rebuild. We come back stronger.”

    These two short video presentations (different producer) gives evidence of the New World Order (US Seal, all seeing eye on US Dollar) on display on ground zero an also working within the media (www) of CBS TV (all broadcasting companies), movies and globally via the World Wide Web.

    They set it up, took it down and then built a tower representing the New World Order.

    They did not take it down by commercial jets either.

    The truly sad news is they (666) are also within evangelical churches, doing similar “false teaching” doing harm to the children of God.

    The plagues and wrath are going to fall upon them.

    Blessings
    Psalm 25

    • BHO is not that smart.

      you and I understand that www can mean 666, but that does not mean that was his intent. you are assigning intellectual intent to someone with the IQ of a golden retriever.

      this was his version of Isaiah 9:10 which his speech writers gave him to say (part of his speech)

      The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.

      remember BHO did NOT write www or 666…

      he wrote:

      we remember

      we rebuild

      we come back stronger

    • what is this about not being creative? :(

      there is a difference between being creative, and being swept away by vain imaginations…

      I am trying to keep things real here!

    • i understand you and the devil is clever in manipulation only GODs children see but those that don’t see only see their father ‘s tricks as truth in their confusion

  89. You prefer science and the scientific method over creative arts and music.

    The more dominate (sciences over humanities or business ) is manifested in education, study/degree.

    I think you are taking my comment (not creative) as a negative label?

    Excuse me, forgiving me for causing that emotional reaction because my comment was not intended to label/harm.

    Keeping it real…

    BHO does need to be smart or very intelligent. He does not set the US or world agenda, plan his day or develop his talking points. He is more lame than Buchanan who helped led us into the Civil War.

    BHO was groomed and handled every step since college days – maybe back to his early Subud days.

    This is a new revelation (Subud) and it is significant!

    We know intelligence is not required for being President, considering Truman, Ford, Reagan, Bush II, to name a few.

    A degree or the school which one graduates does not equal imtelligence either. Lincoln was brilliant without formal education or a degree.

    Peter made a great impression upon the religious and political leaders in Jerusalm with the Holy Spirit.

    You know this to be true – as a Believers we are a vessel of the Lord (2nd Timothy 2:20).

    Lucifer does the same with demons, impacting humans – workers of iniquity. Judas was a vessel for Satan.

    It does not take a high IQ but a person, key position, right place and right time.

    BHO fits perfectly. It maybe that our preconceived notions (paradigm) and interpretations need to be reevaluated due to King James and NIV style translations.

    Now for science and being real – consider the following from a few intelligent persons.

    These are presented as evidence that the Beast is working within our culture and the people are blind.

    The first links is written by Mechanical Engineering professor.

    http://drjudywood.com/articles/BBE/BilliardBalls.html

    I’d try to explain more about the Beast (666) and BHO with links and informed perspectives, but I detect resistance that is unusually strong.

    It has been a difficult week of accusations/attacks for a few of us on HA.

    More later….

    Blessings
    Psalm 27

    • dj

      sorry, I was not being resistant, but I am analytical of everything people say.

      i was trying to have some fun with you with the emoticons, but some of them did not turn into pictures.

      I agree with you about the final conclusions.

    • i agree.

      wishing you well.

  90. Golden Retrivers are a wonderful, smart (can be trained), loving, loyal, playful dog. How dare you make that comparison.

    BHO sure looks like the appropriate vessel for the purpose required in these last days. The Subud news puts him “in the mix.”

    One question now becomes – who is his birth mother? But that is not necessary with an Indonesian father.

    BHO filled like Judas was filled (Luke 22:3), will change BHO’s personality, IQ and other characteristics of the flesh.

    Besides, a vessel does not require FDR or Lincoln intelligence. Truman, Ford and a few others were not what you would classify as intelligent. Carter is intelligent but does not seem to be wise.

    Trying to keep this thread going….keeping the replies shorter.

    So – If we can understand 666 as a symbolic representation of a construct operated by “the flesh” of men (absent of all that is Holy), then we may be able to see the manifestations of “The Beast” all around us.

    666 (Hebrew letter waw, waw, waw), can be understood as a construct of man’s vision of a world without God.

    www = 666 is not a stretch at all. It is much larger and much more integrated into our culture and society than Believers know (spiritual blind and/or asleep).

    This world of the flesh is represented within man’s designed construction, which are in opposition to God: Tower of Babel, Pyramids (Egypt, Mayan and others), obelisks and within modern building design, music composition and applied sciences.

    Construct: to build or make (something physical): to make or create (something intellectual such an institution) by organizing ideas, words, etc.

    mathematics: to draw (a shape) according to a set of instructions or rules.

    The Freemasons are at the pinnacle of applying this 666 construct (physical and intellectual) around the world, including NYC and across North America, London and across Britannia, Paris, and Bavaria. The Vatican achieves similar outcomes from the same source – Lucifer.

    http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/2011/08/13/666/

    http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/category/music/

    http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/2011/08/11/ellipses/

    More later…

    Blessings
    Psalm 27

    • true

      • You know, I caught something in my email yesterday while at work and as I clicked the link and read through the pages, I caught something about someone saying this guy may possibly be a better chance as the antichrist.

        Usually I am skeptical about these things, and sometimes I read them for entertainment purposes, but this one stood out more than the rest and I found it worthy to share and get some insight from others about what they think.

        The label Prince Charles of Wales as the antichrist, but it is with good reason and I think it is a good read.

        Here is the link, let me know what you think.

        http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/prince-charles-antichrist.htm

  91. Marianne, notice the Virgin of Guadalupe, who is the Virgin of the America’s. She stomps the crescent moon. Notice how the moon looks like two horns. I believe this is significant. Also, agree with Walid Shoebat and you, Marianne, that the Beast’s are Islamic. The Beast of the Sea and the Beast of the earth, all symbolize Islamic nations. Turkey, where the home of Mary and St John is located, is the source of where this caliphate of strength will come from. The two horns may very well be Turkey (Leopard) and Iran (Bear), and Saudi Arabia (Lion) has been the mouthpiece for funding the schools of radicalism all over the world. We have a pretty good idea of the Beast’s and their nations, but we forget that the Beasts are aligned with the Dragon, which allows all of this to happen. Who is the Dragon or better yet what is the Dragon? I believe this is where Freemasonry comes in. Like Hitler, a Freemason, who partnered with Islamists, so too we are seeing this alliance today. It is a Marxist/Islamist alliance that is changing the world’s politics into a very dangerous one. We should ask who is the Dragon? Because I believe the Dragon is the person of the Antichrist.

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