The Seed of the Serpent

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**this is NOT the “seed of the serpent doctrine” which is a heresy. In that teaching, the serpent actually mated with Eve. This study does NOT say that. It addresses a theory about how the nephilim, described in the Bible at a much later time, originated. If Eve had mated with the snake, ALL mankind would be contaminated with the seed of the serpent, Including Jesus. The account of the nephilim takes place in Genesis 6, long after Eve is dead.

In the beginning:

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee [serpent] and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Traditional interpretations of this prophecy are that the progeny of people who follow Satan as unbelievers would be at enmity with the progeny of the people of God.

To a great degree, this has proven true. It does indicate a struggle between the faithful and the rebellious, and a struggle between just good and evil in general.

It also indicates, on a very literal level, that the serpent has “seed” that will oppose the “seed” of the woman.

Deeper meanings:

1. The seed has been identified in other scripture as representing the Word of God. Therefore, the serpent’s seed is his word that opposes the word of God. It represents heresies, false doctrines, blasphemies, and false witness against the children of God. The classic example is the word of the virgin (woman) Mary expressing agreement to the Word of the Lord in the annunciation of the pregnancy that would produce the Messiah, who WAS the Word of God. And the seed (word) of the woman was at enmity with the seed (word) of Satan, who worked to kill the Messiah (Word of God).

2. A second interpretation is that, the serpent’s physical seed only produces more snakes, which would be easily killed off by the offspring (seed) of man. This does not seem to have any relevance here.

3. The creepiest interpretation is that the snake is smart enough to inject his physical seed into the human woman, and produce progeny that are wicked. In the early days of the Bible, this is described, and the progeny have been referred to as Nephilim – part snake, part human.

Genesis 6:1-7
1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them…..

So is what the Bible says even physically possible?

Yes. The Bible indicates indirectly how this was done. Demonic spirits have no physical bodies. To operate in the physical realm, they need a physical body – animal or human. The demons [sons of “god (ie sons of the worldly gods),” NOT sons of GOD-Yahweh] possessed the physical bodies of large snakes, and mated with wicked women. So, is this a valid explanation, or is it fantasy?

For this to be valid, 2 things must be possible

1. the possessed serpent must be physically able to mate with a human. If the snake is big enough, its physical structures could match that of a human man.

Imagine an anaconda. They are huge. Snakes do come in various sizes, depending on the species and age of the reptile. Human experiences with snakes, like boa constrictors and anacondas, are that they will wrap their bodies around their victims.

biology:

In snake mating, the male snake has two half-penises or hemipenes at the base of his tail. Once aroused, the male everts one of his hemipenises and inserts it into the vent of the female. Copulation times range from a few seconds to several days. It is assumed that mating could last more than 60 seconds for successful sperm transfer. The male snake will align its body to the females.

I could not find the mating of a large snake, like an anaconda, but I did find that of a crocodile, which is also a reptile. The male anatomy appears similar enough where mating could physically occur with a human female. So I do not offend any sensibilities of those who are not used to biology and anatomy, I will not put pictures directly here, but refer you to a link:

http://crocodilian.com/crocfaq/faq-8.html

2. the serpent DNA needs to mix with human DNA, so that an embryo can be formed.

It is scientifically possible to mix the DNA of different species. This includes human DNA and tissue with other animals.

See science references below with conclusions and notes below:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/

Scientists create animals that are part-human

Stem cell experiments leading to genetic mixing of species

Sheep that have partially human livers, hearts, brains and other organs are shown here at the University of Nevada, in Sparks, Nev., on April 27.2005

http://www.infowars.com/articles/brave_new_world/chimera.htm

Chimeras, Cloning and Freak Human-Animal Hybrids

http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/1998/04/genetic_engineering.html

human-ape- chimeras, goat-sheep chimera, human genes in mice, gene therapy, human cloning, fish-tomato hybrid !!!!!

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/mg19526125.000-snake-dna-found-inside-a-gerbil.html

snake dna in gerbils

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/2/6/494.pdf

snake, flies, mice, DNA mixing.

http://jesusbewith.us/?p=129

Animal eggs fertilized with human sperm. Also, I have a post that shows a possible bizarre hybrid of a cow and a human or alien life form. Look here to view the pictures:

http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/alien-or-human-like-fetus-born-from-a-cow/

So now that we can establish that this can physically happen, what else does the Bible say about the evil one who is to come, who is the physical seed – offspring- descendent – of the serpent?

Mixing of Iron and Clay

Daniel 2:42-43

And [as] the toes of the feet [were] part of iron, and part of clay, [so] the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they [iron] shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Look close at this verse:

note the parallel:

iron = “they

clay = “seed of men,” man is made from clay

So, “they” is not human, ie. demonic, and the mingling is intermarriage of physically and spiritually incompatible types.

Recalled prophesies about the seed of the serpent

Remember in Gen 3:15, it says:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shall bruise his heel.

***The constant and final battle will be between the seed of the serpent and the seed of man. The seed of the serpent will also attempt to mingle with the seed of man to destroy its spiritual purity and destiny:

Recall Genesis 6:1-7
1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them…..

***Nephilim – seed of serpent into human

female……

so unnatural union of iron (demons) and clay (human)…..

Daniel 2:43 warned and prophesied:

“….so they shall mingle themselves in the seed of men [in marriage bonds]; but they will not hold together [for two such elements or ideologies can never harmonize], even as iron does not mingle itself with clay.”

Where do we find documentation of this intermixing of iron (demons) and clay (humans)?

The Iron, and the seed of Islam in the Quran (Sura 57- Iron):

57: 25. Verily, WE sent Our Messengers with manifest Signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance that people may act with justice; and WE sent down iron, wherein is material for violent warfare and diverse uses for mankind, and that ALLAH may know those who help HIM and HIS Messengers without having seen Him. Surely, ALLAH is Powerful, Mighty.
57: 26. And indeed WE sent Noah and Abraham, and WE placed among their seed [physical seed] Prophethood, and the Book [word of the serpent]. So some of them followed the guidance, but many of them were rebellious.

The above could be interpreted this way:  Satan admits to mixing the satanic seed with man. Is Mohammad’s lineage contaminated with the seed of the serpent? If so, then the Antichrist will actually be a direct descendant of Mohammad, and carry both snake and human DNA in his body.

*** note: the actual bases that make up DNA in any animal are the same. It is the order of the bases that determine new genes which will code for different proteins, that influence the organism’s body and functioning.

The idea of serpent DNA mixing in with human DNA is not that bizarre. Many virus DNAs are inserted into the human host upon infection, and take over the cell reproduction machinery. The snake DNA is more complex than the virus DNA, so should be just as “infective.”

This is all just theory based on what has been written and quoted here. Maybe it is true, maybe it isn’t.


108 Responses to “The Seed of the Serpent”

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  2. Whoa! Heavy Heavy stuff!

    I read the link of the chimera. Horrible and frightening.
    We don’t own our own flesh?
    We’re legally prohibited from knowing what’s in our food?
    And they’re doing all this insane stuff.
    These are indeed frightening times. Perhaps God is limiting, or even prohibiting, the children of the Righteous so when the times come, when the desolation is in the house, we can run to the hills.

  3. This is the scientist coming out in me.

    This might be another, but unspoken, reason why God did not want the Israelites to marry outside the Hebrew nation.

  4. The whole human serpant concept seems somewhat farfetched at first, but then seems to actually make sense. Effective use of scripture and interpertation really made your point known. But can’t say I necessarily agree with the whole Mohammmed bit at the end.

  5. roberto

    thanks. true, the mohammed things may not be true, but I just went by what was admitted to in the Quran. Time will tell, I guess.

    marianne

  6. There is no way that Eve had sex with a serpent. The seed of the woman is Christ, the seed of the serpent is the anti-Christ who is about to make his appearance.
    Eve said of Cain who killed his brother.”I have got a man from the Lord.”
    The iron in Daniel is the Roman Empire, then the iron feet is the revived Roman Empire (America) and the clay is the ethnic peoples of the world (non Anglo-Saxon)
    The ancient Romans were white as is proved by the statues of the emperors. They were oppressers then, their descendents are oppressers now.
    The Roman Empire revived in 1776 when the Declaration of Independence was signed.
    America has since oppressed, enslaved, robbed, murdered and maimed the Native Americans, Africans, Hispanics, Japanese, etc.
    America has been kicked out of every country it has gone into.
    Whites and Ethnics do not mingle even though they try to.
    The seed Daniel mentioned as “they” are the whites and the clay are the ethnics of the world.
    The stone (Jesus Christ) cut out of the mountain (God) will smite the image on its iron and clay feet. That means it will be America that will be destroyed. These are the days of those kings.
    Prophets and preachers (AA Allen, David Wilkerson, William Branham) to name three have foreseen the destruction of America. Even George Washington knew it as God did show this to him.

    • Eve did have sex with the serpent. That is why she left Adam and God cursed her for disobedience.

      Now you know the truth.

      There are two portals in the heavens, the serpent portal, and the Angelic portal.

      There is only One Son, Christ, he follows the laws of Moses.

      The Antichrist has a false bride, she is a fornicating apostate of the church lead by false teachers.

      Once you have the truth, best to repent and turn from your sin before it draws you into heresy away from God.

      Christ and the Angels are very concerned for your well being, they believe in the true doctrine of repentance, mercy and forgiveness. That is the beauty of salvation, the power of prayer and redemption.

      Live a straighter path in Christ.

      Blessings,

      Prince Michael
      Covenant Prince

      • Was cain a result of eve with the serpent?

      • That’s a neg. there Ghost Rider. Eve did not have sex with the serpent. Please state Bible chapter, and verse.

        The Sons of G-d are Angels, and Adam until the New Testament when the word made flesh rises from the grave to be the first of a new creation. Also, known as the Son of G-d.

        The fallen Angels, or Sons of G-d did have offspring with the daughters of men, and it was the main reason for the flood of Noah. You can read about the Sons of G-d in Job along with Lucifer.

  7. your country.

    thank you for your comments.

    I understand the alternate views. This is just one of them since the nephilim was mentioned in the bible.

    I did not say Eve had sex with the serpent. If this was so, then all mankind would be contaminated. The nephilim came later on.

    I agree that America is not what it should be. Eventually, all wicked nations will be destroyed.

    You hold the revived roman empire view. I hold a revived Grecian-roman view. see here:

    http://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf

    I guess time will tell. I hope we are all ready for this.

    marianne

  8. ps your country

    your views are very welcome here. Sometimes I present alternative views, just to make people think.

    thanks again.

    marianne

  9. I dont believe it is america or any other country.It is the cathlic church.Just look at the pope when he is dresse with all the pagan emblems.The Jesuite headqaurters is in Jerusalem.America and all the world leaders is just puppets in the hands of satan.They nearly all belong to the free masons.

  10. Alida,

    Thank you for your thoughts. Please feel free to look around the website, and continue to contribute.

    marianne

  11. Hi
    I’m with Your country on this.
    Man comes from the Hebrew word Adam which means : to blush, to be ruddy to show blood through the skin.
    If we know the whole world is made up of White, black and one or other Eastern nation ( say Japanese) then we know that that description only fits with a white person.
    The rest of the world is made up of mixes between these three types of people.

    Ps Mirianne i love the topics you post and make people think.
    Very brave

    • Bee…Your view is wrong. Every person on earth shows blood through the skin, that they don’t is a myth. Ever hear of veins? Evolution plays a big part from Eden to now.
      Man aka humankind comes from the dust from where God made him. Made in the image of God, not in the image of serpents.
      The basic answer to the seed question is that within the human race is the nature of sin, it came from disobedience to God. Not from any physical reason.
      Cain killed Abel not because he was a physical seed of Satan, but because he disobeyed God. It is disobedience to the word of God that is evil. He did what was wrong. His nature to sin which is in all of us, over ruled his nature to not sin.
      If people understood how important the word of God is they would understand better what is going on.
      What God says, what proceeds from his mouth is LAW.
      Go against that and you’re dead meat!
      It was not that Cain was physically wrong it was that he did wrong.

      It is sin that is in all of us that is evil.
      The iron and clay means simply people, not some deep hidden mystery that cannot be understood. Or one race over another, it is sin in the whites that have oppressed those they deem inferior.
      Sin is the killer not any race is the killer. Disobedience to God. This is the problem. Christ died for all people and this tells that no human being on earth is reptilian.
      I have written my own blogs on this and personally I believe the antichrist will be a Roman aka American.
      This fits with America’s technology which will order all the world to receive the mark or not be able to buy or sell.
      Nothing but America fits who the beast is and no people fits who the iron is but the Anglo Saxon people.
      No offense to anyone but sin is a deceiver and one of its big deceptions, the very one that turned an angel into the devil is PRIDE.
      Anyone who thinks they are superior to anyone in any way has gone the way of Lucifer.

  12. Thanks Bee,

    Time is short for this world. I have the need to declare good vs evil so people will not be deceived. This was just a study in biology theory to imagine if such a thing could even happen – mating between demon possessed snakes and humans to produce the nephillim. The question is…did it happen?

    Make sure you see where I clarified Eve did not have sex with the snake. We do have strange people that have sex with animals even now. I added that clarification after “your country” made a comment. “your country” believes the roman view of the antichrist, I believe in kind of a grecian-roman hybrid, which is a different post. see here:

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/category/antichrist/

    Either way, the antichrist is coming, so we need to purify our lives, and be ready.

    All comments welcome, we need to think more !!
    marianne

  13. Why do we seem to think that the seed of the serpent is not here already ? Why are we waiting for it to appear when the anti Christ does.
    Those that are not with Christ are the anti Christ.
    The Serpent is the one of the names of Satan, see Rev 20;2 hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan,

    So the devil came to Eve in one form or another and spoke to her, not literally a snake.
    Remember ” word ” means ” logos” so it is not logical yesterday or today that a snake speaks.

    I don’t think you are far off if you are thinking Eve had sex with the seed of the serpent as the word ” fruit ” in Hebrew is ” # fruit, offspring, children, progeny (of the womb) ”
    And Trees in the Bible often represent people or nations as they clap hands see ISA 55;12 he mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

    I have never seen any trees clap their hands or mountains sing, and I’m sure it is the same for those days too. I also know of no ” Tree” that has knowledge of anything, let alone good and evil ?

    So read it again with ” logos ”
    GEN 3;3 the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

    This is my opinion and any feedback is appreciated.
    Blessings in the search for truth

  14. Bee,

    All the scripture might mean is “deeper meaning # 1″ above which is the logos = word. Not sure about Eve, since the bible does not say, but it does seem that some people are incurably wicked. Many that eat of the fruit ( seed = logos) from the serpent are sure to die a spiritual death.

    marianne

  15. Yes, I do agree some people are incurably wicked,This is true.
    I don’t know what you mean seed =logos
    I only get ” logos ” in the new Testament, from the Greek lexicon, when looking up “word” and “sayings ”
    Seed has another explanation.
    please explain as I am a bit lost here.
    Thanks

  16. Bee

    You understand me, but you don’t know it :)

    Jesus identified the true “seed” as the Word of God. You say seed = logos = word, sayings

    so, we are saying the same thing.

    God speaks his Word (seed), and Satan speaks his word (seed) to counteract what God said. so there is a war of words here.

    marianne

  17. Ok I get it.
    Luke 8;11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

    Thanks

  18. The seed of the serpent can be identified throughout history, for their unrepentant hatred towards the people of faith (Christians), the Prophets, Patriarchs, and the House of Israel as the people of the promise. Satan who is able to appear as a Minister of Light, should his seed be any different? It is the seed of this same serpent that is now out in the World using deception and cunning fables to persuade many within the Churches, these cause men and women to lust after the things of the flesh. It is the false promise of prosperity associated with materialism and power that has led much of the World into open rebellion against God. The serpent and his seed are alive and well, some are even now behind the mega-church movement where sacrifice is called for upon the Altar of Mammon. The subtile ways in which this serpent leads this rebellion is no different then the deception used in the Garden and the temptation of our Lord. Yeshua declared well the orignin of the Pharisees of his day when calling them vipers, and identifying them as children of their father Satan. Many appear as religious leaders seeeking to deceive, yet the political world is also filled with much of this seed having positions of power, to wield influence and bring bondage to nations. By their fruits we shall know them with the additional support of discernment provided by the Holy Spirit, for if it were possible they could even persuade the very elect, yet the sheep know the voice of the Great Shepherd.

  19. Eve was so named as the Mother of all living, and it was this woman formed from the rib of her husband that identified that it was God that opened her womb. Cain which means Gotten was born as Eve declared she had been given a man from the Lord. Is it possible that before removal from the Garden that Eve did bear children as they were commissioned too be fruitful and multiply, that these children left the habitation of the Garden and migrated and from these Cain found a wife? Notice that Eve was given her title as “Mother of all living” prior to their expulsion from the Garden.

  20. Hi Rodney,

    It is very true what you said about Satan and his seed deceiving the church. Just pray more people get the same insight you have.

    I assume Adam and Eve were the same age. Adam lived to be 930 years old. So that is a long time to be having children – both boys and girls, although the girls are not mentioned. Genetically, in those days, people were different, and marrying one’s sister may have been normal and expected. So Cain must have married his sister.

    God changed the rules later, after both the earth and mankind’s physiology had changed, due to environmental changes from the flood and other changes.

    blessings
    marianne

  21. Mariane, I am still reading every article on your site and I wanted to respond to the words MIX, MIX, and MINGLE in the passage from Dan.2:43 about the 10 toes of iron and partly clay that will not mix. this is another one of my studies and the Hebrew for this is fascinating. Using http://www.blueletterbible.org you can acces the Hebrew translation for this passage and see the word used 4 times in that passage for MIX……it is ARAB. I believe that the endtimes beast is definetly Islam, no doubts whatsoever from studying Daniel and Revelation for years, and that islam will NOT mix with any other religion in the endtimes ( the global world religions coming together) I have read and heard Walid Shoebat and Simon Altaf and others, also Perry Stone’s Unleashing the Beast. Another time I would love to speak to you of the marian apparitians and the Catholic connection to islam. B e blessed in your studies and thanks again for a well researched site.

  22. Hi Cathy,

    You are right… :) I just looked up MIX and found it is “arab”

    This will agree with my post on

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-fouth-beast-of-daniel-and-revelation-the-antichrist/

    about the last beast being from the Islamic world.

    blessings
    marianne

  23. In your quote from the Quran you are way way off. There is no way to make “physical seed” out of “Prophethood”. In the vs you quote “iron” clearly means “metal” for making weapons. Islaic people are the seed of Abraham’s union with Hagar and God blesses Ishmael in the Book of Genesis. You don’t provide documentation of your conclusion that the “Book” is the word of the serpent.

  24. Hi Cassandra,

    This is just speculative theory, based on what is out there. It is a “what if this were true, what would be the clues that it was true” kind of theory. I guess I was confusing. You are right to think I was really stretching the imagination some at points. But this was an exercise in imagination – bible + science- what are all the possibilities?

    I guess instead of this:
    WE placed among their seed Prophethood [physical seed] and the Book [word of the serpent]

    I should have said this:
    WE placed among their seed [physical seed] Prophethood and the Book [word of the serpent]

    I was just trying to point out that the Quran indicates that “WE” (who is “WE” by the way?) had direct involvement of some kind with both the physical seed (“messengers of Allah”) of man, and the writing of the Book (seed as the word of Allah, not Jehovah).

    Muslims are proud of the claim that the number of the Quran is 666. They consider it a divine number.

    As for the physical aspect, again I was speaking more symbolically but just wondered how it would be if interpreted physically. I do feel that if demons mated with human women several times before in bible history, then it may not be a phenomenon that is over. I do believe there are possessed people. And the devil can come in any form – human or otherwise.

    I just sometimes put out imaginative theories to make people think “outside the box.” I want people to think about things they never thought of before. The final decision is up to them.

    Your comments are blessings, and insightful. I appreciate your input.

    blessings
    marianne

  25. Hi Marianne
    I have had some time to do a study into this topic.
    I will give a brief outlay and you can let me know what you think.

    The serpent is symbolism of Satan as here are all his names.
    Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

    Our main clue to this seed is the Trees in Eden as evidence below will show trees are a symbolism for people.

    ISAIAH 55:12
    For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

    Word in Greek means ” logos” so logically speaking trees can’t do all these human characteristics so they must be people.
    If you look up trees in your concordance you will see many more examples of this.
    Now see:
    EZEKIEL 31:18
    To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden.

    so now we know there were many more people in eden, so if Trees are people ( nations ) so must the tree of knowledge of good and evil, as we logically know no tree can have knowledge of anything, it can also not be desired as Eve desired it.
    We know fruit is offspring :

    GENISES 30:2
    And Jacob’s anger was kindled against Rachel: and he said, Am I in God’s stead, who hath withheld from thee the fruit of the womb?

    Please note that God said He made some trees to grow but the tree of knowledge and the tree of life was also in the garden, very subtle but there. The Tree of Knowledge was not to be “eaten” and as we know that is a sexual connotation .

    So Eve had a sex with a people that God forbid them and Satan wanted them to, could this not be the seed of Satan ?

    I have written it out much longer and if you want a copy I’ll mail you one.
    Let me know ure views
    Blessings

  26. Dear Bee

    That is an interesting theory, that the trees in Eden represented other people there. It would explain why the population grew so quickly after that, although the bible only records one family – that of Adam and Eve. I might also explain who became Cain’s wife – someone from the “other group,” and why people outside this lineage had women who mated with demons and produced nephilim.

    One thing I would not understand is why evil people would be in the garden, when that place was supposed to be perfect. I guess we would need more scriptures to evaluate this theory. Keep working, and let me know.

    blessings
    marianne

  27. Hi Marianne
    Yes, this will put to rest many things. Like lucifer is not Satan as there are others in Eden and Lucifer doesn’t appear in Rev 20:2
    Incest is not allowed. Sons of God are the Adamic line and daughters of men are the other lot as these are the wives they took and not angels mating with humans. I find people make the Bible too sci-fi which is not practical for us today and I’m sure not God’s intention as it would be hard for us to understand and remember He is the same today and tomorrow so we would be able to relate to all these stories from the beginning of time.
    Remember ” word” means Logos so we should be able to bring everything down to that and understand it.

    regarding the Garden of Eden being perfect, i reread it and I don’t see that God said it was perfect I think we assume it was.
    Come to think of it how could it be if God had to give them the first law and warning if there was nothing to be wary of, especially if the consequences were so dire ” thou shalt surely die” ?? doesn’t make sense to me.
    But I think we getting somewhere.
    Blessings

  28. Hi Bee

    Remember Satan is the devil’s real name. The only place Lucifer is mentioned is in Isaiah. It means star of the morning. It is not a real name. The translators did that. They made that name up and then it stuck.

    blessings
    marianne

  29. Dear Bee

    Your email address is coming back as not working.

    marianne

  30. Hi marianne
    Yes, my e-mail is down at the mo.
    I know Lucifer is only mentioned once, but the King James is perfect in it’s translation see Bible numerics. Also that passage in Isaiah, is directed at the King of Babylon/Tyrus so again you’ll see it is directed at people.
    Someone presumed it was Satan and that stuck but the Bible clearly tells us that Satan was a liar and murderer from the beginning which is in Genesis 1;1 If you do a study on Satan you will see that him being a fallen angel is a myth.
    When the Bible says he was cast down from Heaven, the Bible is referring to the ” children of heaven” which is an ancient Syrian belief, remember the tower of Babel ? the reason people presume Satan is Lucifer is mainly based on the fact they don’t see others in Eden. Just my opinion in what I have researched, take a look and see what you find.
    Blessings

  31. Dear Bee

    where do you get the information that satan and lucifer are 2 different people, and that satan is not a fallen angel?

    thanks
    marianne

  32. Hi, by doing my own research because I saw a contradiction when the Bible gives all the names for Satan, plus this passage.
    Joh 8:44
    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Now if God created him and he was an angel He would have created Satan good, but the Bible clearly says that Satan speaks lies from his own and that there is no truth in him. Also that he was a liar from the beginning, which is in Genesis 1;1.
    Also that passage is directly adressed to the King Of Babylon.
    ISAIAH 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased ! the golden city ceased ! …………….
    This could be Nebuk….. or another not sure yet possibly even babel.
    In fact if you read the whole passage you will see that it clearly addressed to a man.
    Isaiah 14:16
    They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
    So this king is clearly a man not a fallen angel.
    This is important to know because as a fallen angel it seems satan doesn’t have so much power, if we can grasp that perhaps he is not then we can see that satan possible has the power to create.
    Look at Moses and Aaron with the pharaoh. Moses representing God’s power and the magicians of Pharaoh representing Satans power.
    When Aaron turned his staff into a serpent so did Satan( but seven), therefore what God can do so can Satan, the good news is that God’s serpent ate Satan’s serpents thus God will triumph in the end. this then could lead us to perhaps Satan created the tree of knowledge ????
    You see what I’m getting at ? let’s keep going and figure this thing out.
    Blessings

  33. Hi again
    After posting the above I thought to ” google” and see if anyone else had the same findings as I did.
    I found these sites you may want to check out.

    http://bible-truths.com/lake9.html?gclid=CNbw4sfcnpUCFQukHgod5jOnkQ

    http://www.s8int.com/lucifer.html

    http://www.tektonics.org/gk/heylucy.html

    Blessings

  34. Bee,

    I am reading the references now. Are you saying that satan is a spirit but not a fallen angel? and that he has a physical body?

    blessings
    marianne

  35. No I’m saying that Satan is a spirit and has a creation ( seed) just as God does. His angels are demons and yes not a fallen angel
    Remember the Lord God says ” there are many God’s but I am yours O Israel ”
    I’m not saying there are actually many spirit beings but Satan has obviously formed many dif. religions and we can just lump them under Satan
    to me it looks like two powerful spirits, each with their own seed or seeds and that is how the battle is going to go down in the end.
    We’ll need to understand creation, Eden and the offering of Caine to get a clearer pic.
    What is it that Caine offered that the lord had no respect for?
    Remember a keeper of sheep is a Shepard which is is a ” pastor”
    The sin offering of Caine has a gender and should be ” ruled” over. So clearly not vegetables.
    Genesis 4:7
    If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
    Remember at this stage there is still only one law, do not touch or eat of the tree of knowledge.
    My point is, If god created all people and all seed is His then why would He be wrath with Caine’s offering?
    This clearly indicates that Satan must have a physical seed, a people here along with God’s.
    Do you see what I’m saying ?
    Blessings

  36. Bianca

    No I do not get what you are saying yet. What do you mean about Cain’s offering. It was vegetables. I have no clue why Cain’s offering was rejected.

    How do you know demons are not fallen angels along with satan?

    (none of your email addresses work)

    blessings
    marianne

  37. Hi, sorry my mistake try this e-mail.
    The same as Trees are nations so is Cain’s offering also people bearing in mind that the serpent has a seed.
    How can veggies be a sin and lie at your door.?
    How can veggies desire anything?
    How can you rule over veggies?
    how can veggies be referred to as ” his” ?
    Could this possibly rather be the seed of the serpent ?

    I know Satan and his angels arn’t fallen because.

    Joh 8:44
    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Now if God created him and he was an angel He would have created Satan good, but the Bible clearly says that Satan speaks lies from his own and that there is no truth in him. Also that he was a liar from the beginning, the beginning is in Genesis 1;1.
    which is long before anyone was even created.
    Genesis 1;1 In the beginning…………….
    I also know because no way is Lucifer Satan but rather the King of Babylon, a man.
    Maybe we should rather see why people say that Satan is a fallen angel and break it down from there to see if it is true?

  38. Bianca

    I assumed “his” referred to “satan” and if cain was obdient, he would “rule over satan.”

    Lucifer is a fictitious name added by the translators. It does not appear in Hebrew.

    blessings
    marianne

  39. Hi Marianne
    I understand that Lucifer is not in the hebrew, my point is that the ” lucifer” chapter is reffered to Satan by the churches and the main reason people think Satan is a fallen angel, when that passage is directed at ” the king of Babylon.

    Remember at the time of caine and Abel there is still only one law.
    ” do not touch or eat of the tree of knowledge”
    So the sin that ” lieth at the door” must have something to do with that law?
    Anyway, I don’t think Satan is a fallen angel and would like to get to the bottom of this myth.
    Blessings

  40. Dear Bee

    Are you makingl Lucifer and satan 2 different people?

    I understand and agree about the king of babylon part, although the king of babylon would have to be more than a man, if he was around at the time of the garden of eden. Some scholars consider this a double reference – to the earthly king and to satan at the same time.

    So you are saying that Satan is just an evil spirit that can have a body, as opposed to being a fallen angel?

    How do you interpret this verse from Luke (Jesus talking):
    Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

    blessings
    marianne

  41. Hi
    The ancient Syrians had a religion where they called themselves ” the children of heaven” see how the Bible Bible it up.
    genesis 11:4
    And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; ……………11:9
    Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth:……………..11:8
    So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth:
    So you see these children of heaven scattered and the mission of the 70 was to preach the gospel to cities of men, men who probably upheld this Syrian belief.
    If the read the whole verse you will see that the 70 said that thru His name that devils were subject to them and they cast out demons etc. Therefore by these people accepting the good news the devil lost his power and the lightning incident was a direct acronym for what the 70 had achieved within these cities they visited.
    I hope I explained it properly as I am starving and have a braai ( barbecue ) waiting for me.
    But will be happy to elaborate later or tom. if something is unclear.
    Blessings
    Ps I have tried to do a quick ” google” on these children of heaven but you may have more luck as you are in the USA

    Also, the Lucifer chapter I can’t see the mention of Eden, so no, I don’t think that king of Babylon was in eden but definitely they are the progeny of these people.

  42. Hi Bee

    I must have been thinking of Ezechiel, when I mentioned Eden. The “king of tyre” was supposed to have been around in eden, not the “king of babylon.” The “king of tyre” was called the anointed cherub. see below

    Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

    Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

    Eze 28:14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

    Eze 28:15 Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    blessings
    marianne

  43. Hi Marianne
    Here is some of my findings, this is long so I’ll post some of it.
    I am busy setting up my own site to explain it all fully.

    The lord says Ezekiel must take up a lamentation against “ the King of Tyrus “ which we know is a man see
    28:2
    Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, ……………..yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

    Tyrus we know is Lebanon and Lebanon and the people of Lebanon
    We now know Trees are a symbolism for nations and therefore there were more people (Trees) in Eden and Lebanon were referred to as the “ Cedars of Lebanon “ otherwise known as the Cedars.
    Here the Lord shows us they were also in Eden. (The garden of God)

    31:8
    The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him:

    Cherub is abit of anomaly but it is a very vague word, the Hebrew says : Of uncertain derivation; a cherub or imaginary figure: – cherub,
    It seems cherums is used widely because if you look at
    Eze 10:2
    And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city.

    You can see they are not actually angels, but that is another discussion so let’s break down the rest of that passage in EZE 28
    Satan being a spirit being does not have Gold and silver neither is a merchant. Just the fact that the Lord allowed this person to be rich and do well in his cities and then to be brought down just because of his vanity and sin is just not possible for a spiritual being. Bottom line is Tyrus is Lebanon and not Satan. I cannot believe how we can miss something so simple and how we have been brainwashed. please let me know if you are understanding what I’m saying and if you are on the same page ? i also thank you for giving me the scriptures to rebuff this myth. let’s keep going if there are anymore questions.
    Blessings

  44. post

  45. Hi Marianne
    Here is some of my findings, this is long so I’ll post some of it.
    I am busy setting up my own site to explain it all fully.

    The lord says Ezekiel must take up a lamentation against “ the King of Tyrus “ which we know is a man see
    28:2
    Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, ……………..yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

    Tyrus we know is Lebanon and Lebanon and the people of Lebanon
    We now know Trees are a symbolism for nations and therefore there were more people (Trees) in Eden and Lebanon were referred to as the “ Cedars of Lebanon “ otherwise known as the Cedars.
    Here the Lord shows us they were also in Eden. (The garden of God)

    31:8
    The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him:

    Cherub is abit of anomaly but it is a very vague word, the Hebrew says : Of uncertain derivation; a cherub or imaginary figure: – cherub,
    It seems cherums is used widely because if you look at
    Eze 10:2
    And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city.

    You can see they are not actually angels, but that is another discussion so let’s break down the rest of that passage in EZE 28
    Satan being a spirit being does not have Gold and silver neither is a merchant. Just the fact that the Lord allowed this person to be rich and do well in his cities and then to be brought down just because of his vanity and sin is just not possible for a spiritual being. Bottom line is Tyrus is Lebanon and not Satan. I cannot believe how we can miss something so simple and how we have been brainwashed. please let me know if you are understanding what I’m saying and if you are on the same page ? i also thank you for giving me the scriptures to rebuff this myth. let’s keep going if there are anymore questions.
    God Bless

  46. Hi again
    Here is some of my findings, this is long so I’ll post some of it.
    I am busy setting up my own site to explain it all fully.

    The lord says Ezekiel must take up a lamentation against “ the King of Tyrus “ which we know is a man see
    28:2
    Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, ……………..yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

    Tyrus we know is Lebanon and Lebanon and the people of Lebanon
    We now know Trees are a symbolism for nations and therefore there were more people (Trees) in Eden and Lebanon were referred to as the “ Cedars of Lebanon “ otherwise known as the Cedars.
    Here the Lord shows us they were also in Eden. (The garden of God)

    31:8
    The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him:

    Cherub is abit of anomaly but it is a very vague word, the Hebrew says : Of uncertain derivation; a cherub or imaginary figure: – cherub,
    It seems cherums is used widely because if you look at
    Eze 10:2
    And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city.

    You can see they are not actually angels, but that is another discussion so let’s break down the rest of that passage in EZE 28
    Satan being a spirit being does not have Gold and silver neither is a merchant. Just the fact that the Lord allowed this person to be rich and do well in his cities and then to be brought down just because of his vanity and sin is just not possible for a spiritual being. Bottom line is Tyrus is Lebanon and not Satan. I cannot believe how we can miss something so simple and how we have been brainwashed. please let me know if you are understanding what I’m saying and if you are on the same page ? i also thank you for giving me the scriptures to rebuff this myth. let’s keep going if there are anymore questions.
    God Bless

  47. Hi Remember it is not so far fetched to think that the King of Tyre or the King of Babylon could have been in Eden as Adam lived for 900 years. See Eze 31 which may give some insight.

  48. Post 1
    Hi Marianne
    Here is some of my findings, this is long so I’ll post some of it.
    I am busy setting up my own site to explain it all fully.

    The lord says Ezekiel must take up a lamentation against “ the King of Tyrus “ which we know is a man see
    28:2
    Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, ……………..yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

    Tyrus we know is Lebanon and Lebanon and the people of Lebanon
    We now know Trees are a symbolism for nations and therefore there were more people (Trees) in Eden and Lebanon were referred to as the “ Cedars of Lebanon “ otherwise known as the Cedars.
    Here the Lord shows us they were also in Eden. (The garden of God)

    31:8
    The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him:

    Cherub is abit of anomaly but it is a very vague word, the Hebrew says : Of uncertain derivation; a cherub or imaginary figure: – cherub,
    It seems cherums is used widely because if you look at
    Eze 10:2
    And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city.

    You can see they are not actually angels, but that is another discussion so let’s break down the rest of that passage in EZE 28

  49. post 1
    Here is some of my findings, this is long so I’ll post some of it.
    I am busy setting up my own site to explain it all fully.

    The lord says Ezekiel must take up a lamentation against “ the King of Tyrus “ which we know is a man see
    28:2
    Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, ……………..yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

    Tyrus we know is Lebanon and Lebanon and the people of Lebanon
    We now know Trees are a symbolism for nations and therefore there were more people (Trees) in Eden and Lebanon were referred to as the “ Cedars of Lebanon “ otherwise known as the Cedars.
    Here the Lord shows us they were also in Eden. (The garden of God)

    31:8
    The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him:

    Cherub is abit of anomaly but it is a very vague word, the Hebrew says : Of uncertain derivation; a cherub or imaginary figure: – cherub,
    It seems cherums is used widely because if you look at
    Eze 10:2
    And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city.

    You can see they are not actually angels, but that is another discussion so let’s break down the rest of that passage in EZE 28

  50. Hi marianne for some reason ure site won’t let me post my LONG response to EZE 28 comment even if I break it into two parts.
    It has allowed the two smaller ones as testers.
    I either get ” sorry duplicate post ” or nothing it just doesn’t appear. Any suggestions?

  51. Here is some of my findings, this is long so I’ll post some of it.
    I am busy setting up my own site to explain it all fully.

    The lord says Ezekiel must take up a lamentation against “ the King of Tyrus “ which we know is a man see
    28:2
    Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, ……………..yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

    Tyrus we know is Lebanon and Lebanon and the people of Lebanon
    We now know Trees are a symbolism for nations and therefore there were more people (Trees) in Eden and Lebanon were referred to as the “ Cedars of Lebanon “ otherwise known as the Cedars.
    Here the Lord shows us they were also in Eden. (The garden of God)

    31:8
    The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him:

    Cherub is abit of anomaly but it is a very vague word, the Hebrew says : Of uncertain derivation; a cherub or imaginary figure: – cherub,
    It seems cherums is used widely because if you look at
    Eze 10:2
    And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city.

    You can see they are not actually angels, but that is another discussion so let’s break down the rest of that passage in EZE 28

  52. aha, there it is Thanks !!
    Oh ok only half of it.
    In the meantime I spent the day posting the full story on my Forum which went live today.

    http://solomon.heavenforum.com/forum.htm

    Let me know what you think?
    Blessings

  53. Hi Bee,

    Good for you!!!! congratulations on your new site. I have it bookmarked, and I will come and visit.

    blessings
    marianne

  54. hi Bee,

    The king of Tyrus was alive during the time of Ezechiel. How could he have been alive in the garden of eden? Ezechiel lived about 539 BC. The garden was long before that, and if the king was alive a long time, by the time ezechiel started to minister, the king would have been at least 3500 years old.

    how did satan – as a spirit – reproduce without a body?

    blessings
    mariannne

  55. Hi there, Thanks for the congrats.
    I’m not saying that satan as a spirit can reproduce manifest and then reproduce in a physical body.
    I am saying That like God as a spirit being, Satan is also able to create his own bloodline of people.
    As God created Adam and the other trees … so Satan created his own people ( the tree( nation ) of knowledge.
    What i am saying is that Satan also has the ability to create life in the form of people. Again look at the parable of The wheat and the tares” also Deut 23:2 A bastard will not be accepted in the congregation of the Lord
    Now a bastard is something ” bastardised” not a fatherless child ( out of wedlock) Is this not someone breeding with the seed of Satan? we definitely know Satan has a seed, we now know trees are nation. Now we have to accept the possibility that if Satan is no fallen angel then he may have more power than what we give him as the ability to create. Do you see what I’m saying ? By calling Satan a fallen angel we are down playing his ability and that is why it is so important to show that Satan is not a fallen angel.

    thank you for giving me those dates, then I say that god is addressing the nation as a whole and how successful and Blessed they have been in their history as nation> I am presuming that the said Kings God is mentioning is because probably because of them their nations will now be brought down. I think the king of Babylon is Nebudchad….. and not sure who the King of Tyre was at that time, need to do some homework, maybe you can tell me) but my guess is if we look at history we will see that these nations probably lost their success during their reign. Or my other thought is God says ” take up a proverb against….” so perhaps these where prophetic words. Perhaps you more insight here to pinpoint exactly what happened there.
    All I do know is that in both cases the Lord is most definatly not speaking to Satan. If we can accept that then we can start looking at who and when the Lord is actually speaking to.

    Blessings and sorry my post ended up showing 100 times above, perhaps you can delete some of them ?

  56. Hi Bee,

    I am still trying to completely understand what your theory is. The bible says that God created the heavens and the earth, as well as man. I think you are saying that Satan can create human life as well as God. If so, are there any scriptures that say this?

    So far, I see Satan has creating children by corrupting the minds of those that God created? I do not see yet where satan has directly created human beings from nothing, as God did.

    blessings
    marianne

  57. Aha, yes God created “man” and if you look that up in the Hebrew there is a description. also Adam is a description. In fact they are the same word.
    Ge 5:2
    Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

    Picture this
    ” hello Adam”
    ” hello Mrs Adam”

    So logically speaking they all male and female cannot be called Adam, therefore Adam must be a description, not so ?
    look at HUE =colour
    Man= description
    Drop the E you get HUMAN= description

    I read under youre Hamas post that one Islam reader said we all come from the same source, Adam, Now how is that even possible.
    If Adam was Japanese and so was Eve we would all be, If Adam was Japanese and Eve Aboriginal then we would all be mixed, and so on.
    All people on Earth come from at least 3 types of races. Caucasian, an Eastern and an aboriginal. The rest is made up of the 3 mixed one way or another. I’m not meant to sound racist I’m just following logic and scriptures.

    Also God says the tree of life and the tree of knowledge WAS ALSO in the garden and not that he made them to grow.
    Knowing Trees are now nations, how could God create the tree of knowledge and then say stay away from it or you will die and as a result of ” eating” from it there is enmity between her seed and Satan’s seed ? Therefore we must conclude that the tree of knowledge is not what God created but from Satan and that seed is Satan’s seed.
    Read the wheat and the tares and look at it carnally, physical seed and it clearly shows that the tares ( seed) belong to Satan
    and he planted ( created) them.

    Also remember Moses and Pharaoh story with the staff turning into serpents, what God can do so can Satan only God wins in the end.

    carnal and spiritual work together, we must remember that as we have been brainwashed by the churches to only look at spiritual as they know carnal is controversial.This is the reason Jesus had to speak in parables.
    Once we can see the carnal side the Bible will really start to open up to us.
    Blessings

  58. Hi Marianne
    I’ve been thinking about it.
    I don’t think you are going to find a clearer scripture than
    ” there will be enmity between your seed and Satan’s seed”
    Knowing this is a physical seed, Eve represents God’s seed.
    God will not create a seed and then say ” Satan these people are now for you”
    Therefore if Satan has a seed only he could have created this seed.
    There is no possible way that God created Satan’s physical seed as well as His own.
    Blessings

  59. Hi Bee,

    If satan has physical seed, then he has a physical body. Maybe he is able to manifest in both spirit and physical forms.

    blessings
    marianne

  60. Mmmm
    Never thought of that.
    You mean like Jesus being part of God came in a physical body ?
    Interesting.
    I always just thought looks like God has a creation actually 2, the Adamic line and the others and Satan also has a creation possibly 2.
    Blessings

  61. [[How do you know demons are not fallen angels along with satan?]]

    It seems angels do not have the need to occupy a body. So evil spirits may belong to some other category other than angels(fallen). That is Derek Prince’s opinion.

    I have read somewhere that Book of Enoch sheds some light on sons of God and nephilim.

  62. Hi Golda

    I think I should read The Book of Enoch, but not sure where to get it. Maybe on internet?

    blessings
    marianne

  63. Throughout the rest of the Bible ‘Sons of God’ means angels… ‘daughters of man’ is obviously human…They HAVE found the giants’ bones!! They were very tall individuals. VERY TALL-look! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI8q8xTSoXk

    WOW! Especially look at this! INCREDIBLE.

  64. By the way, yes you can read Enoch online…I read some of it. pretty interesting. Even though it is not in the cannonical Bible, I thought it was pretty reliable because Jude and some of the other disciples REFER to the book of Enoch in THEIR books in the New Testament… Hmm… Anyhow, have a great week!

  65. Hi Marianne and all, it seems to be for me, there is an awakening at the moment, throughout mankind/internet/believers for truth and also something horrific..

    few thoughts:
    -Jesus resurrected body was a “normal” body “with flesh and bones”. As he met his disciples after the 3 days, he showed them his wounds and ate meat.
    But he came directly through the walls to them. I believe our bodys will be the same flesh and bones in heaven, only without sin or mistakes, a glorified body, with new possibilities.

    Sons of God means in hebrew creations of god.
    I think that the renegade angels have also bodies which are- as the bible tells in Gen. 6- able to copulate, in line with free will and sin (Lust)!

    -is it possible that these Nephilim (serpent/humanoid) have been living until today? Maybe underground or under a humanoidshape as “normal” persons? Over time the gigantism defect could have been become corrected and these hybrid offspring could assimilate into society undetected. Maybe there are until today wicked creatures on the earth?

    I dont know if the Bible states, that all to the last Nephilim have been killed in the old testaments history.

    -Occult meens hidden knowledge
    -Lucifer/Satan and his subordinates love the dark, hate the light, therefore its very logical that they operate in hidden, occult Societys. These societies as we know working for a new world order;
    and the emerge of the antichrist, maybe Lucifer himself in flesh…?

    One Quote from thewatcherfiles.com:

    Most aren’t aware that the higher ranking members of the Illuminati and secret occult societies refer to themselves as the “sons of Cain.” His seed was passed on from Ham’s cursed son Canaan. Yes Noah and his sons had perfect DNA. Being “perfect in his generations” means Noah had pure uncontaminated DNA, it doesn’t mean he or his sons didn’t sin. In fact Noah was drunk and it was when Ham sinned against Noah that resulted in a curse being placed on Ham’s son Canaan (Gen. 9).

    What was the sin? Some interpret Ham “seeing the nakedness of his father” was an idiom for Ham having sexual relations with his mother. Others believe that Ham had homosexual relations with Noah while he was drunk. And that is what I believe. Noah knew when he woke up what had been done unto him. How would he have instantly known when he woke up something had happened with his wife? He knew what was done because it was something personally done unto him and he knew which son would have done it..and it was Ham.

    It was sexual perversion that caused Canaan’s offspring to become cursed. It was their sexual perversions that led them into all kinds of deviations and perversions and what led to unholy unions with fallen angels creating hybrid races being born from the Caanites such as the Hittites, Amalekites, Kenites and other ancient races forbidden by Israel to intermarry with, the ancient races that instituted pagan practices, devil worship and idolatry into their daily lives. They were wicked, continuously evil, and produced hybrid children and giants.

    Atheists and Agnostics will point to mass slaughters by the Israelites of old as inhumane when God would order every man, woman and child killed during a war. The irony is there was nothing completely human about these races to begin with. They were hybrid races, the offspring of fallen angels and that is why the Lord demanded they all be killed. His judgment was upon them. Just as He had destroyed them with a flood He would destroy them through wars with the Israelites.

    Most people today simply don’t understand the ancient world of our past. A time of co-existence with half alien and half human races, monstrous beasts created by DNA tampering and perversions, and entire races and civilizations devoted to devil worship, human sacrifices, paganism and wickedness.
    ——-
    – It is today like in the days of Noah… with Nephilim??

    I watched yesterday incidentally a movie from David Icke “Revelations of a mother Goddess” (on googlevideo) , in which a abused woman states she was involved in babylonian sacrifices at the meetings of the Elite, Illuminati. She stated that these evils would be serpent seed, reptilians (!) hidden under normal humanoid shape, and that they needed blood from scared and abused humans to sustain hidden. At the moment, she said, were they got emotionally excited (sacrifice of the victim) they “shifted” to reptilianform..
    I did not watch the whole movie only these excerpts because of its lenght.. i was naturally more than SCEPTIC…!
    but in the last month yahweh revealed me constantly so much divine truth, as i begged for it.. so i searched further, e.g. thewatcherfiles..
    …indeed scriptures COULD back that up… even though not the whole theory (Cain wasnt serpent seed, i think..)

    So.. after reading some articles about the serpent seed, i went on youtube…

    Oh my goodness…!! SEE what i found:

    http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=ksPtnQmq2dc

    (see also the links on the right side, infobar!)

    http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=-qb2_1IpMu8

    Do you see his reaction at 0:16 min.???

    http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=dKCVKQqwi1E

    See the Reaction at 1:14 min.???

    Slowmo: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj8741m2jLc

    http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=4hxBNJRVoTs

    Seems if something in the earth -magnetic field/Solarcycle/..???-
    is causing that they loose their covering… if this is no hoax..

    It is said in the endtimes that mankind will have great fear.
    But… Maybe i am wrong.. what do you think about this?

    Love, Silvan

  66. Hi Silvan,

    God cleansed the earth during Noah’s time, to remove the nephilim once, but of course, the demons returned, to start over, mate with women in Canaan, and produce new offspring. The Philistines were good examples of nephilim who reentered the land after the flood. The way you can tell that is because when you cross 2 close species, the offspring will be larger.

    Saul was ordered to kill every one of them but he disobeyed. This is one reason his anointing was removed by God, and he was replaced by David. At least at one point, I think David got rid of all he could find, but some may have escaped, by leaving the area. Even though man can try to kill off the offspring, the demons can always return and mate again, if evil women are willing.

    The modern witches that exist, and some women from that region, are evil enough to be willing to do this. Maybe, this is a physical reason behind the insanity and animal like behavior of terrorists. It could be more than a religion. It could be physiology.

    I am not sure about the “nephilim” videos. That could be a camera trick.

    blessings
    marianne

  67. I agree that it could be a camera trick, but i will keep watching this. Especially the reactions are probably indicating some evidence.

    I think we have to think about the point:
    Have the Sons of God from Gen. 6 a physical body ?
    The bible shows rather clearly that they have. Even when we think about Jesus’ resurrected, glorified body, it is very well possible.
    Luke 24:
    35And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
    36And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
    37But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
    38And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
    39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. 41And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
    42And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
    43And he took it, and did eat before them.

    Also as Jesus was tried by another fallen angel – Satan himself- i guess he appeared to him visibly with a physical body.

    But what are then the Demons, the spiritual principles of Ephes.6, who are trying us to commit every kind of sin?

    Maybe the Spirits of the Nephilims.
    For human it is “given, to die once, and after this the jugdement”.
    WE “sleep” until judgement.
    But Nephilim are only half humancreatures, half angelic creatures.
    Maybe they are the evil spirits that are us bothering.

    I have read at stevenmcollins the article about the Gap-Theory (“Is the Earth 6000 y old”).
    Its about Genesis 1:1, the creation of heaven and earth, was first made for the angelic creatures, who sang for joy, and inhabitet the earth and other planets for a long period of time, under Lucifers rule, until he and 1/3 o.t. angels tried to oust god from throne.

    It was war in our solar system!

    This explains the pocks and callosity on the (now) devastated planets of our solar system.
    It explains the scientific evidences that the EARTH is Millions of years old.
    It could explain why the Dinosaurs first were little and peaceful and then quickly became fighters with armor and weapons (acc. to scientific excavation).
    Maybe Lucifer got tested from Yahweh, with a few creational abilities, but this went to his head, and he got pride.

    The earth was devasted after the war with Satan:
    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
    When you look at Gen. 1,3 the week of (re-)creation began first there, with creating light – day and night, the 24 hours.
    “Let there be…” indicates the beginning divine creational activity for every creational day.

    Very very interesting, isnt it !? :-)
    Steve backs this with other sripture-passages.

  68. It is not demons that mate with human females. It is fallen Angles. Demons are the offspring, and their souls will be destroyed on judgement day, as it is not their fault they were created. They are evil.

  69. Hi Leatherneck

    Since fallen angels are considered spirits, how do they do this mating without a physical body? We know that in heaven, there is no body like we know here on earth. So how does a spirit get a body to use?

    That is what I am trying to figure out on this page:

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/does-satan-have-a-body/

    some people have some good thoughts.

    marianne

  70. I think they change the DNA, not mate like two humans would. However, Lucifer is able to change himself into an Angel of light. Perhaps, he can assume human form.

    The book of Enoch does not read how, just it was done.

    Over

  71. I can only relate my personal experience here… for your additional consideration on this subject. I do believe that Jesus was very specific in his denounciation of the religious clergy of His day when He called them “Vipers!”. He called them vipers because He wanted us His children to realize who and what they are in nature for our own protection. I have met a few people whom I could accurately describe as ‘vipers!”. I am not engaging in insults or name-calling stemming from anger over their wickedness, but these words conveyed do describe exactly who they are! Calling them vipers exposes who they are! It is not an insult any more it is an insult to call an anaconda a snake. These people, resembling humans in every cell of their body act human, but this is where it ends. One who is filled with the Holy Spirit can discern their spiritual substance, heavy (laden with unrepentant sins) and ominously dark, and have a stench permeated with nauseating evil. The first time I experienced this I thought I had lost my mind. But in fact, through the Holy Spirit my eyes were made open. I had been blind previously, but the Holy Spirit opened my spiritual eyes. About twelve years ago, my ex-husband’s uncle Reg arrived unexpectedly to visit our home. This uncle was always sexually harrassing me in a subtle and teasing manner. I avoided him as best I could. I never felt I was in any real danger. But that day, I found myself alone with him in my living room. He didn’t make any physical move on his part. He just sat in the armchair. I sat across from him and then slowly I felt a distinct wafting coming from him. It was invisible but had substance. It was like tendrils or long serpentine plumes emanating from him. These ‘snakes’ or tendrils wove around me and curled around my neck. I suddenly couldn’t breathe. The ‘snake-like tendril coiled tightly around my neck and the distinct sensation was that it was purely evil. I almost froze from the shock from this spiritual attack. But I got up and left the house. I later told my then husband. He told me that his uncle had shot commonm-law wife’s hand. He had missed her but managed to shoot her hand. I had seen her hand and wondered why it was horribly deformed and shriveled. Now I knew. I do believe that had I not been a spirit-filled Christian the snakes that emanated from this man would have imobilized me and he would have quickly raped me as we were totally alone in the house. It is said a snake can imobilize a victim with their eyes. I didn’t find out if this was true, thanks to God’s protection. In another incident, I observed a man walking donw the street. There was something peculiar about him. I studied him as he walked. I noted that what caught my attention was that there was something reptilian about him, s very ancient and inhuman. I then forgot about it. I later surfed on the net and while conducting my university studies came across information in psychology journals that part of the descriptive criteria or symptoms for people having schizophrenia of the most severe cases is their ‘reptilian stare’ and ‘reptilian demeanor in stance and movement’. I later found out that the man I had previously studied in his slow, ponderous walk down the street reminded me of a dinosaur or walking reptile. Although at that time my impression did not make sense. In another incident, a relative came unexpectedly at my house. He was abrupt, cold, wicked in his tone and mannerism. His very presence agittated me and made my skin crawl in discernment. We had an argument over his abusive behavior and I told him to leave. I shouted actually saying “get out you snake!” I do not ordinarily call anyone a snake but in this case the words just came out. As soon as he left, I felt relief course through me. I had the distinct impression a huge snake had just slithered out the door! I do believe a snake posessed my relative and it was this snake I was uncomfortable with! My relative is someone I care for and love but in this incident this person was not my dear relative! In another incident I was working at a womens rights organization. A co-worker came to me to report a dream she had. The dream made such an impression upon her that she went to a Shaman to discuss it’s spiritual meaning. She dreamt she had been imprgnated by a snake which came to her in a powerfully sexual dream. In her waking state she felt the sensation of churning in her pelvis. The sensation continued for a long time thereafter and there was no physical cause according to her doctor. So she went to a Shaman and she reported with pride that this Shaman told her she had been impregnated with occult ability. The snake who had sexual relations with her in her dream was a spiritual being who had gifted her with tremendous power. The power was in the snakes and the snake was now her also her Protector spirit. I only listened but knew that this woman could not ever be a friend of mine. As the weeks flew by she evidenced small physical changes which I took note of but of course, no one else at work noticed. Her tougue would involuntarily dart in and out like a snake. Her eyes would narrow almost like slits at times. Her brown eyes now emanated a greenish hue. She would look at people and they seemed to be mesmerized by her intense stare and couldn’t turn away. I haven’t had contact with her since and to date have no knowledge as to what happened to her. In several other incidents, all similar, I have walked into a store or business where the sensation of snakes is quite distinct. It is like walking into a snake pit. I usually walk out. It doesn’t happen all the time. But I found out that these places are invariably managed by a minority that has a history of snake charming and religious belief systems related to reptilian deities. It is an ancestral bondage that can be broken by repentence over the sins and iniquities of their ancestors. My own thought is that asexual reproduction has been proven to be a biological possibility and it is possible I believe that humans can asexually reproduce by spiritual impregnation. This spiritual impregnation can be made by an evil entity. I have encountered several women during my years as a women’s counsellor who have been impregnated by unknown fathers. These women just cannot remeber having any sexual encounter with any man. They do not know or understand how they had become pregnant. It is not because they are niaeve or do not understand the reproduction process or the basics of sexual contact – they suddenly became pregant and they honestly do not know how it possibly occured. I am not saying that there children are not human, far from it, I am only saying, this is an issue that has not even become an issue of investigation. No woman wants to report to anyone that they mysteriously became pregnant without any contact with a male partner. These women are few in number but they do exist and perhaps, they may have been raped while in a deep sleep or had a disociative experience which their concious mind does not remember. I only mention this because I want to examine every possibility, no matter how remote, on this unusual topic. I myself, have not made any certain conclusion. But I do know this. There are people who coexist with us, who evidence a cold reptiliam nature in heart and soul. The psychiatric proffession call them sociopaths. If spirit is an invisible energy, then can this spiritual energy tamper or affect the integrity of human DNA during the formative phase of gestation? Radiation, magnetic fields, electricity can be felt physically, and can hurt human tissue, what about the vast unknown of an energy classified as ‘spiritual’ in nature?

  72. HI sara,

    You have the discerning of spirits, and it looks like you needed it. I believe what you say. I would guess that dark spirits have positively (+) charged energy. (+) draws the electrons, which creates the current. If too much (+) is around a person, it can drain their energy, it is like being around a black hole. The outside “coating” of DNA has a (-) charge.

    If a strong (+) is present, it can pull apart the DNA helix, and allow random events to occur. If these events would lead to inappropriate replication, I am not sure, but it is more vulnerable to whatever else is going on in the cell.

  73. HI sara,

    You have the discerning of spirits, and it looks like you needed it. I believe what you say. I would guess that dark spirits have positively (+) charged energy. (+) draws the electrons, which creates the current. If too much (+) is around a person, it can drain their energy, it is like being around a black hole.

    The outside “coating” of DNA has a (-) charge.

    If a strong (+) is present, it can pull apart the DNA helix, and allow random events to occur. If these events would lead to inappropriate replication, I am not sure, but it is more vulnerable to whatever else is going on in the cell.

  74. Very interesting discussion. Two points which I would like to discuss. Spirit beings cannot cohabit with humans. However, they can possess them. This involves an invasion of the spirit into a person’s mind and/or body. Certain groups in the Old Testament were considered “unclean” because of high degree of spirit possession, not contaminated genetics. However, I believe that it is possible that spirit possession may effect genetics.

    Also, the “seed of the Serpent” has absolutely nothing to do with genetics. It has everything to do with Satan gaining total control over a person after that person has allowed him to do so. How does that happen to a person? Satan makes them an “offer they cannot refuse” as he attempted to do to Jesus Christ in Luke 4:6. Thankfully, Jesus refused the offer. However, some people don’t! These people commit the unforgiveable sin, called the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost. Who are these people? They are called the “children of disobedience” in Ephesians. They control the “courses of this world” which are the dominant trends in all areas of culture. One might expect to find most of them in influential areas of politics, religion, entertainment, etc. One can not specifically identify them unless God should reveal their identity by discerning of spirits.

    • Hi Richard

      you have good thoughts…..

      Well, the expression “seed of the serpent” is as mysterious as the “seed of the woman”……

      do we take it literally, or symbolically? Physical seed, or spiritual seed?

      Jesus was a physical outcome of a spiritual seed

      so do we have physical beings as asn outcome of a satanic seed?

  75. Hi Marianne,

    The difference is that the true God can create while Satan cannot. The “seed of the woman” was a perfect physical seed, created by the true God, which impregnated the womb of Mary resulting in the birth of Jesus Christ. This made Jesus, literally the Son of God and a perfect man. He had to be a perfect man to accompplish the redemption.

    Thankfully, Satan cannot do this. He is a created being, and cannot create himself. His seed is a spiritual seed which gives him and his devil spirits unlimited access to a person’s mind. Exactly where it comes from, I do not know. God had to have created it in the beginning and it was originally good until it became corrupted after the fall of Lucifer.

  76. Nephilim were not serpantile at all, they were giants, men of valor and renown. They were the children of rebel angels and daughters of man (not just Cain). These angels were stationed on the Earth at that time (not the 1/3 of angels that rebelled in heaven) and they began to lust after them and picked from them wives for themselves.
    Chuck Missler believes there will be more interbreeding between woman and angels in the last days, I don’t know about that but he does have some great study resources on them.

    • hi daniel

      I think what is meant is that the fallen angels themselves were serpentine in form, but the offspring, the nephilim were human in form, but very large. In rare case, when different species mix, and it actually works, the offspring is larger than the parents.

      There are whole civilizations that worshiped serpent like gods….which would have been the fallen angels themselves..

  77. The seed of the serpent are children of satan.. Cain was the first child of satan.. 2 John 3-12. as were the Idumean pharisees of John 8,as were also the children of belial deut 13-13 and Judas, and the men of sodom,and the tares of matt 13-35-40.. and of course the men of Rev 3-9,10 who claim they are jews but are not…The way they claim they are jews is by professing to be an abrahamic religion as does Islam…
    There is only ONE Abraahamic religion and it is not Islam.. Islam is satan’s counterfeit of the Abrahamic religion..

    Genesis 3-15 is about god’s children and satan’s children.. Matt 13-35-40 expounds this sealed mystery…Rev 12 -17 and chapter shows the serpents seed to be his angels (children) that make war with the remnant of the woman’s seed which of course is Christians.. That battle begins in rev 13…
    Being a child of satan has absolutely nothing to do with sex nor does being a son of God have anything to do with sex.. It is a spiritual birth, some of God and some of satan…

    • that is a very reasonable argument. While I was looking at any possible biological possibility, a spiritual interpretation is much more important.

  78. The biological possibility is used by some groups to justify racism. The so-called “identity religions” adhered to by neo-nazi and Ku Klux Klan members teach that the serpent’s seed is physical and represented today be certain races. As Bible-believing Christians, we certainly don’t want any part of that.

    God’s Word is very plain that the seed of the serpent is a spiritual seed. Although these people are powerful, we as Christians need not fear them because we have greater power in the name of Jesus Christ if we function according to the directives of God’s Word. Read Acts 13 regarding how the Apostle Paul dealt with Elymas, who was a child of the devil.

    An excellent study on this topic is found in the Word’s Way by Dr. Victor Paul Wierwille It is called “The Unforgiveable Sin”. Details on how to order the book can be found in the website http://www.theway.org

    • hi Richard

      I hope no one takes anything here to support a non-biblical bias. It was just to explore whether it was even biologically possible.

      I would have assumed that the corrupt generations drowned in Noah’s flood, after mating with fallen angels. While this situation could be repeating itself in the last days is possible, I do not have any proof for that.

      For most of man’s history, the spiritual interpretation is the most applicable.

  79. Hi Marianne

    You bring up two very good points. I do not believe that fallen angels ever mated with humans, although many disagree with me on this. After Cain murdered Abel, God sent Cain (who was of the Wicked One, not physically bur spiritually) away from the rest of his family. The Godly decendents of Seth, who remained faithful to the true God, were told to separate themselves from the ungodly descendents of Cain. However, at one point described in Genesis 6 the two races intermarried. I believe that “sons of God” in genesis 6:2 refers to believers of the Seth line, while “daughters of men” refer to unbelievers of the Cain line. This merger of the two races brought the devilish practices of the Cain line into the Seth line. By the time of Noah, only Noah and his family were faithful to the true God.

    What I have been taught is that the “giants” (nephilim)of verse 4 is really a figure of speech. They were “giants of wickedness”. The were instrumental in corrupting the antidiluvian culture and turning the believers away from the true God. These nephilim were soiritually, but not physically, seed of the serpent (Satan).

    Another consideration is that the (fallen) angels responsible for the corruption before the flood are now imprisoned. 2 Peter 2:4, 1 Peter 3:19,20. God is not going allow the degree of wickedness which occurred before the flood to happen again.

    I hope this helps.

    Richard

  80. I agree with the comments made by Richard. He has outlined important issues: that the Adamic race though Seth, would be the seed of the woman, whilst the seed of the serpent would be the race through Cain.

    People are not supposed to speculative about what is given in the Bible because to do so is to err. The Lord will hold those who do so accountable for their “writings” i.e. their words. The serpent seed will be identified by their fruit, and not the colour of their skin. When the disobedience of man reaches a certain point, the Lord God Almighty will bring all things to an end, which He alone knows.

    Today disobedience to the commandments of God is at its highest peak and lawlessness has already started. The Lord is aware of these developments, but the Lord will come for his people and leave the seed of the serpent to enter into the great tribulation. This seed neither obeys God nor care about his teachings. Some have crafted for themselves a false doctrine which they use to hide under. That is all that we know. Let us not speculate here, we want true gospel texts to be used not scientific evidence, which has no foundation in truth, written by men who are used by demons, to propagate rebellion and lawlessness in our world.

    This is my contribution and thank you.

    Jay Cee.

  81. Jay Cee,

    I thank you for your comments. I would like to clarify one point. I am not saying that today’s seed of the serpent are necessarily of the genetic line of Cain. However the antidiluvian ones were, at least before the “merger” of the races. A person receives the seed of the serpent when they make an unreserved commitment to worship and follow Satan. This can happen to persons of all races, nationalities and cultures.

    Richard

  82. Enoch was told to tell the fallen Angles they would not be forgiven, and they would watch as their children died. Their was Nephilim before the flood, and after. Nephilim means earth born.

    King David as a young lad fought one called Golith. Golith had several brothers. King Og was another such Nephilim.

    The abduction cases are an example of fallen Angles given respite gearing up for a big lie. Perhaps, right after the Rapture.

    I do not know how Angles/fallen Angles can have a body, but they did on the road to Sodom. Lot gave them shelter.

  83. I do not understand this area of the Word thoroughly. However, there are numerous records of godly angels assuming human form, both in the Old and New Testaments. Therefore, they must have this capability.

    However, I cannot find any record of fallen angels (devil spirits) assuming human form. To communicate, they must possess a human being. (note seances, etc.). It appears that they have lost the capability to assume human form, if they had it at one time. Another point to consider is 1 Peter 3:19, 20. The (fallen) angels responsible for the corruption before the flood are now held in chains. So whatever evil things they were doing before the flood, they are not free to do now.

    • Agreed. However, my point is Lucifer, Satan, the old Dragon is the smartest, and most beautiful created being. His time is short more now with the birth of Israel in 1948.

      I suspect, these abduction cases, the hybreds being seen, or born from humans is part of the lie that will mislead even the elect.

      It is no longer a fight between good, and evil. Good has won on the cross. It is a fight for souls to the very end by Satan who is condemed, but has respite until judgement day.

    • hi richard

      There are parts of the Word which are not clear, since they lack detail we need to form conclusions. We speculate about bodies of fallen angels. Unless we see them again on earth, we cannot form any real conclusions. For now, we just guess and wonder about it.

  84. The antichrist will rise from nineveh-mossul iraq, interestingly, he is called the Assyrian, and the bible alludes to him being called Ashur. Ashur was none other than Nimrod who went and founded Assyria. Hence they called him Ashur. Ashur was the sun god of the assyrians, and is portrayed as the hunter, which was Nimrod. Nimrod portrayed himself as the promised seed. Assyria has ressurected the image of Ashur which they portray on their flags, these people are beimg persecuted by the muslims and calling for a homeland to be created for them in northern iraq. Even though they are catholic christian their assyrian leaders are promoting the image of Ashur/Nimrod the hunter as the image of their nation. This could very well be the image of the beast, or it may be the Lamassu, a man/bull/eagle hybrid mixture which were symbols of both the assyrian and babylonian empire. Like the iron mixed with clay. See my blog for more http://www.666mark.blog.com or go to youtube and watch my vids on the assyrian antichrist. I believe the antichrist’s name will either be Ashur or Nebuchadnezzar. Assyria was also the center area where the fallen angels created giants which the woman of the earth. Which is told in the Sumerian tablets.

  85. Explaining the serpent seed

    For Adam’s D N A was X and Y chromosome and Eve’s was only X chromosome, for she was made from Adam’s rib.

    We know that the male determines the sex for the child X for girl, Y for a boy. So the X chromosome from Adam’s rib made Eve.

    But now because of her unlawful act with the serpent she received the extra X corrupted chromosome which caused her to give birth to the serpent infected D N A child Cain.

    Now Eve gave birth to Adam’s seed and to the serpent corrupted D N A seed. And so because of this great sin a world of immense suffering was unleashed to the world.

    The words of YHWH rings out today just as loud as He said it so long ago “ WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?”

    So from that evil day every woman could carry a corrupted X chromosome in her body, which would determine whether she gave birth to either of the above.

    And so that is why you have divisions in families, a hard pill to swallow, well just look at your own families and friends, see some of the trouble fights and arguments, see some of the homeless thrown out by their parents into the streets, and women beaten unmercifully by their husbands.

    So many brothers and sisters are at war with each other, and so if families cannot be at peace, how can nations be at peace?

    This information is so that you can see from whom you must separate yourselves and find the peace that you long for.

    Keep this secret knowledge to yourselves, don’t tell them, it would cause much trouble, don’t judge them leave that to YHWH, use this knowledge to bring peace to yourselves, seek peace and pursue it.

    • That’s a Neg. there Ghost Rider. Eve did not receive an extra corrupted X from her act of sin. Adam took the fruit too to try and keep Eve from dying.

      What they both did not understand is there is two deaths. The death of connection from G-d called Spirit, and the physical death. Adam died for Eve, but two wrongs do not make a right.

      Christ, having a perfect human body made without sin, and a perfect Spirit, the word of G-d, died for all of us.

      Before Noah, the human DNA was corrupted by the fallen Angels. Those creatures are called the earth born, or Nephilim. Their evil spirits wander the earth until judgement day when they will be destroyed as it was not their fault they were created.

      Lucifer, Old Knob, the Dragon, Satan, or Serpent is the leader of the fallen Angels, and is among the 10% given respite until judgement day.

  86. wow you know alot about the bible and how things work in this world i wish i can speak with you on a personal level

  87. Hail almighty satan king of kings. Steven shearer is a satanic beautiful person and my demons will win the angelic world wich I can see. Call me 02 99131714 and ill tell you some home truths about jesus.f**k jahova.

    • ok sweetheart…..you cannot exalt satan here…..you are really on the wrong path, and should repent

      satan will do nothing for you but make you toast.

      and that is only after her tortures you for fun

  88. If it wasn’t the age of grace, people could not curse God like that and get away with it. However, if he does not ask God for forgiveness, there will be a day where he will answer for it.

  89. hi
    i was reading where steinbeck said the answers are east of Eden, and boy was he right. the Sem arabs seem to know the most.
    Cains wife Awan a serpent ladyvor Nodite was said to be Satan niece. these serpent people have looks that scare humans on first sight. Cain and Awam had Enoch and he grew up in Nod.
    the Arabs believe the Jinn are the leaders of Nod and they were here long before us. it like real life lord of the rings.
    Noahs wife was the serpen lady Naamah

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