Daniel’s timeline

 

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Link to Daniel’s timeline video.  It is long but informative: 

http://www.waytozion.org/video/stream/timeline/timeline.html

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85 Responses to “Daniel’s timeline”

  1. Very interesting but it only leaves about 5 months before the appearance of the Antichrist. Seems a bit too soon but I guess we will find out soon.
    I’m guessing it will be a bust.

    • I am not a scholar James so maybe someone can clear this up for me as I have been looking for it everywhere (Marianne noticed this originally)…let’s say for arguments sake that he is correct, now, we need some biblical reference to when the sacrifice at the temple begins again after it is destroyed. In Daniel 8:13-14 there is a discussion of 2300 days, which is from the time of the resumption of the sacrifice backward to the origin of the Antichrist…now, how do we figure out when the resumption of the sacrifices is (so that we can count backwards to the day of the rise of the Antichrist)?

      I am not sure we might have to ballpark backwards from the given end dates of Oct 2016 then 2300 days to see who comes into power (in Greece). It also says in Daniel 8:9 that he grows slowly at first. I do find it interesting that Greece’s economic collapse is spoken of so often now and that Gabriel says in Daniel 8:23 that ‘an angry king shall rise with great shrewdness and intelligence’.

      Daniel 8:24 ‘His power shall be mighty, but it will be satanic strength and not his own. Prospering wherever he turns, he will destroy all who oppose him, though their armies be mighty, and he will devastate God’s people.’

      It would also explain why Duduman (if he is correct) couldn’t ‘see’ two of the four participants in the conference to destroy America with nuclear fire, either because their identity couldn’t be seen by human eyes or that their kingdoms were a product of satan or that the kingdoms simply didn’t exist when he had the vision.

    • http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1624811620100217

      This is interesting too…look at the last line that says that Greece ‘required a political pledge of support from the European Union’…why is a country in trouble being allowed to dictate terms? Shouldn’t they be receiving terms? Something heavy is going on when a ‘bank’ is allowed to re-instate an entire country after its own agenda…shouldn’t this be the work of governments?

    • He didn’t leave it out. The a/c isn’t revealed publicly until he makes his move to take the throne of David in Jerusalem. According to this timeline, that would not be until Spring of 2013, March 21st or later. Until then, for most, it will be pure speculation. Some will know in advance, but only through prayer, discernment and by direct revelation of the Holy Spirit.

      • The Holy Spirit revealed to me in a dream last weekend that we ARE IN THE FINAL WEEK OF DANIEL…that whatever the covenant is/was stop looking for it as time is drawing near. He literally woke me up in the middle of the night and told me to remember the dream he just gave me. Absolutely we need to be looking for the abomination next…we are living on borrowed time. Exciting for some as I am looking forward to the day when I see Jesus but pray for those that do not yet know him and spread the word, time is drawing closer.

        • Deb,

          Here is more confirmation of your dream. Dewy Burton provided this update to the work within this page in 2010.

          “Beginning from this coming Rabbinic Shavuot (May 19, 2010), the 63rd one from the commandment that went forth in Nov. of 1947, and counting all the way to the end of Tribulation (Sept. 2nd of 2016), exactly as presented in the 2005 Daniel’s Timeline DVD, falls precisely as Teshuva (40 days of repentance) begins on the following evening (Sept. 3rd 2016.)

          This period of time (from the 63rd Shavuot – May 19, 2010 to Teshuva of 2016) is exactly 2300 evenings and mornings to the day!

          And of course, Teshuva, the 40 days of repentance, (the days immediately following tribulation / Matt 24) includes the Feast of Trumpets (the Last Trump), and ends on Yom Kippur (judgment), with the Wedding Feast (Feast of Booths) shortly after.

          Notice that a week of Shavuots [Pentecost]….2010 being the 1st of seven and 2016 being the 7th. And, according to the Scripture, everything is completed within the 70 weeks determined or given (Dan 9:24).”

          See this link for the complete update. There is a simple, easy to understand graph presented within the linked article. It is very helpful.

          http://danielstimeline.com/page6.htm

          Blessings
          Rev. 12:11

          • DEB and to all,

            There is additional information on Daniel’s Timeline contained within this video presentation.

            If you have 15 minutes to spare – it is worth your time. You can always jump ahead every couple of minutes to gain an overview.

            Blessings
            Psalm 27

  2. I just like to mention to clarify something about the Passover itself, which he did not make clear.

    When he says Passover was Nisan 14, as many do (except some of the Friday crucifixion scenario proponents), he forgot to tell what is meant by “Passover”. Is it the day, or the Festival, or the meal (e.g. ‘eat passover’), or the memorial, or the preparation. In the O.T. or N.T. when this word occurs by itself you need the context.

    The lamb is kept until Nisan 14 and killed not ‘at sundown’ as he quoted (e.g. NET), not at twilight (ESV, NASB, HCSB), nor in the evening, but ‘between the evenings’ (Exo 12:6). There is some controversy about what this phrase means, but it is clear the slaughtering of the lambs was towards the later part of Nisan 14 (from the sun start going down, i.e., noon. to the sunset). He incorrectly took the inaccurate translation and applied this timing (sundown) and thought it was the time after sunset at the beginning of Nisan 14. If his idea was correct, the lambs would have been kept only until Nisan 13. The Jewish Seder (passover meal) was eating this lamb and was after sunset of Nisan 14. That means its the evening meal of Nisan 15, which is the beginning of the Festival of Matzah. So the Nisan 14 is Preparation of Passover. Passover vigil is during the night after this meal (i.e. Nisan 14). In other words when we say ‘passover’ it is on Nisan 15. The Festival of Matzah is also called Festival of Passover for the very same reason, and Nisan 14 gets traditionally included in the Festival to make total 8 days.

    One more thing – He tells that Jesus had His last meal on the evening at the beginning of Nisan 14 (that is Wednesday evening). This is accepted by most. However, it may or may not be correct (some propose Tuesday instead, which I buy it), but at any rate it cannot be Seder (passover meal). This point is clear in G-John, whereas the Synoptic Gospels sound otherwise.

    • hi ounbbl

      Thanks for the insights, and details that you are good at. Maybe the current Jewish practices confuse people.

      On my calendar, first night seder occcurs on Nissan 14, not 15. Then there is second night seder on the 15th.

      But this is so the American Jews can celebrate Passover on the same “day” as Israeli Jews, since Israel is at least 7-10 hours ahead of us, depending on the US time zone.

      However, it is Nissan 15 in Israel that is celebrated.

  3. A typo: Passover vigil is during the night after this meas (i.e. Nisan 15). I typed wrong as Nisan 14. My apology.

  4. mmmm , I just wonder why people try and try to say when Jesus is coming back, and the only one that knows is God himself, instead of trying to figure it out and worry about it, just live each day like the end is tomorrow,.trust in Him,,, jmo…

    • If there was a space here to give you a Thumb’s Up I would. Very wise comment!
      Many things yet to come.
      For 1 – Rumors of war.
      2 – there will be 4 earthquakes like the one of Haiti.
      3 – Rejoice and be exceedingly GLAD because GOD OUR GOD is on the doorsteps.
      🙂

    • Mark 13:34 KJV with Strongs
      For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey who left his house and gave authority to his servants and to every man his work and commanded the porter to watch.

      Matthew 24:42 KJV with Strongs
      Watch therefore for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come

      Luke 12:40
      Be ye therefore ready also for __ the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not

      I could go on and on…just because you know not the hour, doesn’t mean you know not the day. I don’t understand how either of you can be so cavalier about the Word of God. Do you think these are idle words, when you are told this over and over (sigh!)?

      You are instructed to watch so that the day doesn’t take you by surprise, like a thief. You are told to do it more than three times…this told to you three times is your biblical witness speaking to you to WATCH and PAY ATTENTION. Of course, if you would rather ignore God, it is not my business…only yours and His, but when he returns it isn’t going to be hugs and cuddles for the people found asleep who are told explicitly in no uncertain terms to watch.

      Revelations 3:3 KJV with Strongs
      Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard and hold fast and repent If therefore thou shalt not watch I will come on thee as a thief and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee

      Matthew 25:5-12 KJV with Strongs
      5 While the bridegroom tarried they all slumbered and slept [sounds a lot like ‘didn’t watch’]
      6 And at midnight __ there was a cry made Behold the bridegroom cometh go ye out to meet him
      7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps
      8 And the foolish said unto the wise Give us of your oil for our lamps are gone out
      9 But the wise answered saying Not so lest there be not enough for us and you but go ye rather to them that sell and buy for yourselves
      10 And while they went to buy the bridegroom came and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage and the door was shut
      11 Afterward __ came also the other virgins saying Lord Lord open to us
      12 But he answered and said Verily I say unto you I know you not [this is NOT what I want the Lord God to say to me]

      Please reconsider.

      • Psa 102:7 I watch, and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top.

        Watch and pray!
        The feasts of the Lord are to be kept if The Lord is indeed your God.
        Tell me concerning these holy feasts why the speaker says that THE FALL FEASTS have not been fulfilled?

        Yes indeed guard your house and pray … stay close to The Lord, Our King!

      • And another note here Christian,
        All ten virgins were asleep.
        The differences are not the sleeping part of the parable of Jesus Christ …
        the differences rather were in the oil of the lamp.

  5. The prime minister suggested to offer Israel the membership in the European Union. What do you think of that?

  6. I wonder what happens for the first 3 1/2 years.

    Seems kind of quiet.

  7. Just now …
    BEIJING An earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 6.8 struck Thursday morning in the region where China, Russia and North Korea meet, the U.S. Geological Survey reported.The USGS said the quake was centered on the Russian coast along the sea of Japan, 61 miles (98 kilometers) west-southwest of Vladivostok, Russia and about 70 miles (110 kilometers) east from Yanji city in northeast China’s Jilin province.

  8. we’re not ignoring God, more that we are believing in his word! If you are a child of His,you need not worry about things upon this earth, I do worry about my children and unsaved people, but I have faith in My Father.. He will provide./

  9. http://timehasanend.org/public/thae_ch10.html#30

  10. I am confused about how the 70 years from 1947 begins? Is that from Israel becoming a nation again? If any of you bother to read the scripture of the fig tree and what it actually says, it says, Just like when the fig tree buds, so also when you see all these signs, my return is near. SO there is no 70 year-Israel generation connection. Its a canard and a fallacy that someone made up. Which makes more since? The generation which sees the Antichrist and sees the other signs will not pass away, which is why Jesus warns the virgins, Look up and keep watching, for YOU do not known on which day YOUR LORD will come. Also if anyone bothers to read Daniel 8, it states that the Antichrist will arrive east for Israel. Not Europe. I also do not understand the whole chart here. Daniel said 70 sevens, and the messiah will be cut off, and so he was. So we are waiting for that 70th week, right? So where does he get the 70 years from 1947 from? SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME!

    • hi alan

      70 years is considered a generation. So one generation from the birth of Israel is 1947 + 70 = 2017, according to this thinking.

      Jesus said see the fig tree, that this generation that sees this fig tree will not pass away until all things are fulfilled.

      That is, the generation born after 1947 should see all the predicted changes and events.

  11. I don’t believe the time period can be measured from 1947/ 1948, when Israel became a nation, as Israel is not Israel without Jeruselem.
    This happened in 1967, so any serious dating must be from that time.

    • hi glenn

      This is just one view, and food for thought. In some way, I can see it, but 1967 is absolutely significant. The biggest question is how to count time.

      But Jesus advised us only the Father knew for sure.

      However, in zeal, people get excited about the end times, and in pursuit of the timing, they discover many truths otherwise not considered.

  12. The Bible says that no one knows the day or hour….It never says year. I believe this is dead on, That seems right being that I believe the Antichrist stepped on scene in 2009…won’t mention any names. 2009 + 7 year tribulation=2016
    I also have noticed 6x6x6 0r 6 cubed =216
    Ironically 144,000/666=216.216.216.216…etc.
    I have also found that number to be all around 0bama, his birthday is the 216th day of the year also the same date the 2nd Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD….His name calculates to 216 in gematria as well(there are gematria calculators online)
    I also noticed that the verse where 666 and the mark are mentioned is verse 13:18…..216 as well as 18 are illuminist codes for 666…6×3=18…..I believe there were clues in the numbers obviously 2013 being the year the mark 666(6X3=18)Revelation *13:18* WILL BE IN EFFECT STARTING THE 3.5 YEAR REIGN til the mysterious end number of 2016.

    • hi inspector11

      I would also expect Jesus to return to initiate a sabbatical year, and the next 2 officially are 2014 and 2018, which are dates close to what is predicted.

      I guess we will soon see how this plays out.

  13. I beg to differ on Jesus’ reference to a Generation.
    If we take the Jubilee example, we have every generation given an equal chance of having their birthright allocated, thus a generation is 50 years.
    In the case if the Levites, the priests were told that the cut-off point is 50 years.
    Numbers Chapter 4 has many references…and…
    Numbers 8:25. And from the age of fifty years they shall cease waiting upon the service [thereof], and shall serve no more:
    This reference to the GENERATION not passing was later clarified by John on the Island Patmos. Rev.11:1.Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
    JOHN also wrote – John 2:20. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
    Here we are told that Hohn was to MEASURE the TEMPLE ..ie.46yrs in construction, …thus in use on the 47th year! (Less than 50y)
    John also was told NOT to measure the COURT as it is given to the GENTILES (Period?)
    Rev.11:22. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles:
    Then, we refer to Jesus’ prophecy in Luke 21:24. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
    This would HAVE to be the UNIFICATION of Jerusalem in the 6-day war on the date 6/7/1967.
    So from that DATE of 6/7/’67 9transition of Man’s and God’s #s) denoting the transition of Gentile period to God’s Generation “till all be fulfilled”

    • hi Olaf

      So, do you think the new temple, or whatever structure is made, will be built by 1967 + 47 YEARS? That would be 2014?

    • Hi Olaf, I would like to tell you that I got the exact same dates as your timeline on 5 Doves, and would like to talk with you. I’m not sure how to get ahold of you, but please contact me. It will be very interesting!

  14. I cannot recall stating anything about a NEW temple!
    John was told to MEASURE “the” Temple (the one Jesus drove out the money changers). Revelation chapter 11 is all about the break-down of the “Last Generation” the Generation that Jesus predicted that would not pass away “Till all be fulfilled”
    Matt.24:34. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    Mark 13:30. Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
    Luke 21:32. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
    I think that anyone today who believe in that scenario of a replaced temple on the Temple Mount, fall into the same trap as the Israelites of Jesus’ time when he stated John 2:19. Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
    as we read after that – John 2:21. But he spake of the temple of his body.
    Revelation 11:1-3 is the cryptic puzzle of the LAST generation given to God’s people who understand and have read the rest of the scriptures. It will not be understood by those who do not read God’s Word, and who only have second-hand information on its contents.

  15. It’s a shame the embedding was disabled by request on this You Tube. This is an excellent video. Go to You tube to see it. Even the New agers/Occultists believe there will be a Third Temple

    Its called “The 911 Stargate”

  16. Here’s another good video on the temple.

  17. Kittii, that video clip is certainly interesting, and I hope that many people play it! I have been aware of all these facts close to a decade ago, and wish that more people were informed of these facts. To show how close we are to the end:-
    We can look at …Rev.8:6. And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
    7. The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
    ….That picture has already passed in the last Jewish Calendar Year (i.e. Sept. 2008 / Sept. 2009) when we had those dreadful fires in Australia, U.S.A., Greece, and several other places on earth.
    THIS Jewish Year (Feast of Trumpets Sept. 2009 to Sept. 2010), we see the OIL spill in the Gulf of Mexico and is the SECOND (Feast of) Trumpet(s) given in Rev. 8:8. And the second angel sounded, and AS IT WERE a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
    9. And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
    …Notice it does not say “a great mountain” …but “AS IT WERE” or in other words “Something that APPEARS to look LIKE”
    We still have till September for the SHIPS to be destroyed! …That is, …IF this is the relevant Prophecy of our time!
    If we care to look, we see that Trumpet # 7 sounds for Sept. 2014, when the Mystery of God will be FINISHED!
    Rev.10:7. But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

  18. THE MOST WANTED

    While I’m still free to warn again,
    Don’t take this page for granted,
    The world we see is changing for our gain,
    And many out there have been listed
    In God’s list of His most wanted effects for life.

    Please look into the X-Casts’line again,
    Those spoted out
    To be cast away
    Are second-lineded
    For a mercy trip in the mind,
    The feat is a reconciliation air.

    Read more in my book coming out soon, “THE SECOND BOOK OF DANIEL”

  19. KNOWLEDGE is wonderful, … but without an abundance of Wisdom and Agape Love: it is fatally flawed. … provided YOU REALLY love Jesus: you WILL be conformed to His image: like the butterfly out of the cocoon…..
    http://www.clearlight.j143.com

  20. 2012 – 2018 : 1947 + 70 years = 2017-18. LOVE AND THE BLOOD-COVERING triumphs over all. Vincit Omnia VerItas.

  21. The Nobel Peace Prize was given to obama on 10/09/09 for his efforts and future efforts to bring peoples together for peace, especially to the muslim world. This is the start of the 7 years. The date of 10/09/09 plus 1260 days is exactly 3/22/2013. This is the first 3 1/2 years. Its interesting the the inaguaration will take place on 1/20/2013 then 30 days later on 2/20/2013 is the distruction of the Alter (war). then 30 days later on 3/22/2013 is the abomination and desolation that has been predicted for several years now before anyone even knew of Obama. If Obama breaks his commandment with many on 2/20/2013 when war starts, and you add 40 days which is like in the days of Noah were, when God had in rain for 40 days, this brings you to March 31,2013. If you add 10 days from the abomination and desolation that takes place on 3/22/2013 brings you also to March 31,2013. The bible says that there shall be 10 days of great tribulation, hmmmm.. March 31,2013 is on sunday. Rememeber the rock was rolled away and Jesus was alive at early dawn on the first day of the week which is about 6 oclock. March 31, 2013 is the first day of the week and the next day is a fools day, April 1,2013. What a day left on earth for the fools of earth to wonder what happened to the ones that are missing when he saves us and brings us up to be with him and he (God) reveals to us what else needs to take place before he comes again in the clouds for the final judgement day in 2016.

    God says if we are not asleep, if we are awake, We will know the day and the hours of his comming. This is a day and an hour for you. BE READY.
    It could be right, maybe I am wrong, either way I am going to be ready and waiting for him.

    Jesus is the way, their is no other way. Jesus knows the way to his fathers house. We have to believe in him, and ask for his forgiveness and accept his free gift of salvation.

    BE READY

  22. So did something happen a month prior to 10/09/09? Mayber I missed something, but in Daniel it says 1290 days after the abomnation is set up. You calculated with 1260, so what happened a month prior to abolish the daily sacrifice?

    • good question

    • On 09/09/09 (flip those numbers), “he” who rode out on the white horse made is first “confirm peace” with many (UN).

      The mid~point is soon. The Ark is coming out very soon. Confirmations are comng by the day – from many sources.

      Psalm
      27

  23. In the daniels time line video. what happens 20 days before the abomination is set up. The Alter is destoyed or shut down. It also says in the bible that when the alter is destoryed, the city is also destroyed. So that would mean that Jeruselem is totally destroyed on or about 2/20/2013. We could expect it to be rebuilt in maybe 3 days. But then on 3/22/2013 we could expect the abomination and desolation to occur. And then ten days after that is Easter Sunder. So in the early morning hour of Easter Sunday, maybe our lord Jesus Christ returns to save us from what is to come. The bible say that we shall have ten days of great tribulation. It”s ten days from 3/22/2013 to Easter Sunday. Its also 40 days from 2/20/2013 When the alter and city is destroyed and war starts. The bible say that his second coming will be like a flood. Well, In noahs day the only flood lasted for 40 days.

    I find the important dates to be:

    Jan 20,2013 Obama Inaguration Day 30 days later is
    Feb 20, 2013 Alter and Temple Destroyed (war) 30 days later is
    March 22,2013 Abomanation and Desolation
    (start of the days of great tribulation, 10 days later is

    March 31,2013 Easter Sunday, in Isreal, in the early morning hour,
    Isrealy time. is the time to watch and be waiting for his
    second return..

    The next day is April 1 2013 which is a fools day. A time for all the fools left on Earth to figure out what just happed.

    It is not often that April Fools days happens the next day after Easter Sunday. Especially with all these other dates and predictions being made.

    What i have found very helpfull is, I just google and certain phrase or subject and look for the passages in the bible that pertain to exaclty what I am looking for. I have been blessed with the word being revealed to me. I have been studying this intenesly for only about two months, but I have know the lord for about 42 years. I have always been fasinated with numbers and calculations. Thank you Lord.

    Jesus came the first time to die and to give us salvation.
    When he comes the second time. he also comes to save us from what is to come. He comes for those that are waiting for him.

    When God the Father comes the next time. It is for the final judgment day. Thats when he says that all will see him and all the people of the earth will mourn. They will then all realize what they have done and missed out on. The ones that come to faith during this time will be killed for thier belief and have to die for thier own salvation. That is why they will not mourn at his coming, because they have died during this time. They are resurected. A statement is made in the bible, its says (where did this multitude come from, and its said that these are the ones that made it through the great tribulation and did not take the mark of the beast. they had to die for their faith.

    I am going on the first ticket out of here. Its real and its coming as quickly as Lightning that comes from the east to the west. Praise God Almighty. Thank you Jesus for saving me. I love him and believe in him so much. Thank you Lord.

  24. typo mistake;;; I meant to say

    In the Daniels time line video, What happens 30 days (not 20 days) before the abomination is set up.

    thats all….

    • dear fast

      where do you get the idea that jerusalem will be destroyed and rebuilt in 3 days?

      also there is no temple there, and that has to be present before the abomination can occur.

  25. In john 2:19 jesus says destroy this temple and I will rebuild it in 3 days. Thats where I got that. The deciples went on to say that they thought Jesus was taking about his body, how Jesus temple was destoryed in three days and then rebuilt when he arose. That is what the deciples thought. Thats not what Jesus said. Jesus continued to walk away and left his deciples carry one. Jesus said that when the temple is destoyed that the city is destoyed also and he would rebuild the temple in three days. So this should be obvious when the entire city of Jeruselem is destoyed. I don’t think that allready happen? If not, It will happen.

    And in Matthew24:15 says (so when you see standing in the holy place the abomination the causes desolation…… its says standing in the holy place, i don’t think it needs to be a temple, it could simply be standing in and on the holy place / a spot, meaning where jesus stood, it will be the place that once was the holy place, I don’t think anybody nows that exact spot, do we?

    Thanks you for your questions,

  26. Fast,

    Moses was told to remove his sandals because the place was “holy ground”.

    I think where the Ark is and will be placed will be “holy ground”: Temple mount or not.

    Blessings
    Psalm 20

  27. When Jeruselem is totaly destroyed someday soon, obama will visit the destuction and recite psalms 46 without giving its reference before or after he recites it. At the tenth anniversary of 911, Obama wolked up to the podium and started talking and said all the words from Psalms 46. Chances are he will do it again. In Psalms 46 especially verse 10 it says “be still and know that I am God.” Obama says he is God. Obama said the words without giving god credit. Thats a abomination. The desolation will have allready occured with the destruction.

    Not sure about the holy place, could it mean standing in the holy place is standing in the holy city of Jeruselem. That could be considered a holy place. I don’t think its that complicated, we have just all been taught that everything must be so complicated and somtimes its not.

  28. Is the term “holy ground” different than “holy place”. We know ” holy ground” is a specific spot because moses was told to remove his sandals. but holy ground is different verbage than holy place. I think a holy place might be a more broad term. I’ll check the hebrew definitions and differences between the word “ground” and “place”.

  29. the word ground can mean dirt, and a very specific spot. now the word place is different. Think of this sentence. New York is a nice place to live. The word place can mean a much larger area.

  30. The word “mashiach” appears 34 times in the Jewish bible but most Christian Bible translations only translate it as “messiah” in Daniel 9. So when Cyrus is called G-d’s messiah (mashiach) it is conveniently translated to the words, “anointed one”.

    In Christian translations they put the word “the” in front of “messiah” so it seems not only like a singular messiah (instead of the TWO mashicah in the chapter) — but as if it is the one and only messiah (Jesus). The word “the” does not appear in the text at all!

    Further — in punctuation and in the timing of two messiahs and two separate time-frames (not 70 “weeks” but 62 “weeks” and seven plus “weeks”). There are two separate time frames and two messiahs (anointed ones). The first anointed one (messiah) was Cyrus. He is actually identified as such in the Tanach. The second is not so easily identified — the second messiah ushered in the second exile and the destruction of the 2nd Temple in 68 A.D. which took two years and was completed in 70 A.D.— ( Emperor Titus? Herod Agrippa? or the high priest Alexander Yannai? they were considered messiahs).

    One KEY to understanding Daniel 9 is to realize that when Jews are told of future events it is usually a warning. If the Jews repent and follow the instructions and teaching in the Torah, then the possible “curse” can be avoided. Daniel 9 is exactly this scenario. All negative warnings CAN be prevented if the warnings are heeded.

    Between the first messiah (Cyrus — who gave forth the word to rebuild Jerusalem) and the second messiah (Titus? Agrippa? Yannai?) there is an opportunity for Jews to avoid a second diaspora — exile. If Jews do not avoid the second exile then the second messiah will come and he will foreshadow the second exile. All of this, unfortunately, came to pass. The second messiah CAME, Jerusalem fell and the Jews were exiled from our land. Most Christian bible translations make the time period seem to be one time frame when it is actually two separate time frames and warnings given by Daniel.

    9:2 In the first year of his (Darius son of Ahasuerus) reign, I, Daniel, contemplated the calculations, the number of years about which the word of HaShem had come to the prophet Jeremiah, to complete the seventy years since the ruin of Jerusalem. 2. I set my face toward the L-rd, G-d, to beseech (with) prayer and supplication, with fasting, sackcloth and ashes. So Daniel tells us WHEN. It is in the 1st year of Darius’ reign.
    Daniel’s vision was TWO-FOLD. The first was that from the word to rebuild Jerusalem (the beginning of the end of the Babylonian exile) Jews were given a specific time in which to properly behave and avoid the “curse” of a second, much longer exile. This is why the vision of Daniel is in two parts. The first messiah Cyrus- ascended the throne 52 years (7 full septets plus 3 years) after the exile had begun and the beginning of the period in which Jews can repent and return to G-d and thus avoid the second exile and then the second half of the vision which says what will happen if the Jews do not heed the warning. From then until the second destruction of Jerusalem by Titus was 438 years (62 septets plus 4 years) Prior to the destruction, the Roman emperor Hadrian made a treaty with the Jewish nation for seven years, but for the second half of the term the Romans would violate that covenant and impede the Temple service. The “mute abomination,” i.e. a temple idolatry, was erected by the emperor Hadrian on the Temple Mount. Both parts of the vision came to pass. The focus on “who” this messiah is misplaced and fairly unimportant. The focus is that the vision of the second exile came to pass. My conclusion is that Daniels timeline has been completed and the war of Gog will end the second Exile.

  31. The biggest mistake of the preacher who is trying to make the Daniel 9 prophecy fit for our times is that he simply doesn’t understand it is NOT a 70 YEARS prophecy but rather a 70 WEEKS OF YEARS prophecy.

    Therefore, if he wants to try to make the Daniel 9 countdown begin in 1947, he should not be counting up one year 69 times (1 x 69 = 69) but rather counting up seven years 69 times (7 x 69 = 483)

    Whereas 69 solar years from 1947 would be 2016, according to the Daniel 9 prophecy, if it begins in 1947, the end point (i.e. the coming of Messiah) would be 483 years later (in the year 2430).

    The Daniel 9 prophecy WAS remarkably accurate in pinpointing the time when the Messiah officially came for the first time to Jerusalem as Messiah. The beginning point was in the year 445BC when the decree to rebuild the city of Jerusalem was given. (Note that the prophecy states the beginning point to be a decree to rebuild the CITY, not the temple). Since the prophecy is all about the nation Israel, and Jerusalem in particular, the coming of Messiah would therefore be to Jerusalem. And do the math. 483 years from 445BC puts you squarely at the times of Jesus!

  32. P.S. In doing your math, do not use a solar (i.e. 365.255 day calendar) but rather the lunar/Jewish 360 day calendar which the people of that day were used (and which will apparently be used when the final 70th Week kicks in, since it specifically states that the midpoint of that week will be after 1,260 days according to Revelation 11:3).

  33. Final Note: As evidence that the final week of the Daniel 9 prophecy did not immediately follow the first 69 weeks…

    Daniel 9:26 states that “Messiah [would] be cut off [i.e. die], but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary [which occurred over 30 years after the coming of Messiah Jesus/Yahshua]; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

    In my opinion, that final week of the Daniel 9 prophecy is waiting to occur until the very end of this age, just prior to the inauguration of the Millennial reign of THE Messiah.

  34. THE GRAND FINALE!!! WITH RADIO INTERVIEW BY STEVE FLETCHER

    This document and radio interview confirms everything you need to know about where we are exactly today…

    1947 + 70 = 2017
    1967 + 50 = 2017

    1947 + 62 = 2009
    2009 + 7 = 2016 SEVEN YEAR COVENANT WITH MANY
    Oct 9 2009 + 1260 days = March 22, 2013… The Abomination
    March 22, 2013 + 1290 days = Oct 3, 2016… TRUMPETS…
    2ND COMING OF CHRIST… START OF 49TH YEAR, JUBILEE

    MARCH 22 2013 – OCT 3, 2016, 3.5 YR REIGN OF ANTICHRIST
    DAYS ARE SHORTENED, RAPTURE DELAYED
    RAPTURE NOW IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE

    1867 – 1917 – 1967 – 2017
    all year of jubilee confirmations

    I have been chosen to bring forth this revelation… here is my full story and testimony, all links included.

    THE GRAND FINALE!!! WITH RADIO INTERVIEW BY STEVE FLETCHER
    http://2fletchdr222.blogspot.mx/2014/05/the-grand-finale-with-radio-interview.html

  35. Well, its been 4-1/2 years since I made the first comment on this article predicting that this whole idea would be a bust.
    So lets look and see what has happened during this time………
    Nothing! We should be a year into the wrath of the antichrist and the mark of the beast should be in effect. There should be a and a One world Currency in order to control buying and selling, right?
    Nothing.
    But the clincher I’d that the two witnesses should be preaching in Jerusalem by now and once again… nothing.
    Unless you throw out all prophecy except for the Second Coming this exercise in numerology has no chance of happening.
    I’m sure some will foolishly cling to it for a while longer. Many have been believing it for many years and letting it go will be painful. Join the club. Every prior prediction has failed so you won’t be alone. But I would start looking for a new idea pretty soon or you’ll end up with nothing to believe in. 😦

  36. THE MIDNIGHT CRY FOR OIL WAS LOUD AND CLEAR… AND THE DOOR WAS SHUT

    http://2fletchdr222.blogspot.mx/2015/01/the-midnight-cry-for-oil-was-loud-and.html

  37. 2300 days of prophecy start during d time of Noahs flood.

    Daniel 9:26-27 KJV
    [26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
    Its with a FLOOD..dated 2349BC.

    There will be deductions of 80 days as mentioned to thr Genesis chapter.

    40 days of rain and 40 days of flood down. Ark was open.

    Genesis 7:16-18 KJV
    17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

    Genesis 8:6 KJV
    [6] And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made:

    2349-80 = 2269BC

    This would exactly answer the 2300 days of prophecy in Daniel.

    Daniel 8:13-14 KJV
    [13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? [14] And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. …

    2269BC to 31AD= 2300 days of prophecy.

    To God be the Glory.

    Sabbatarian Church of Christ group in the Philippines.

  38. Bernzwiser,

    Fig tree lesson:

    1947 (UN proclamation goes forth) + 70 (years of generation, Psalm 90:10 and Jeremiah chapters 29-33) = 2017

    All things will be complete (Matthew 24).

    Add in the Jubilee count (49 years + 1) into the mix of years developed above.

    Begin with 1917 and the Balfour Declaration:

    “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

    “The initial draft of the declaration, contained in a letter sent by Rothschild to Balfour, referred to the principle ‘that Palestine should be reconstituted as the National Home of the Jewish people’ (Stein, Leonard (1961). The Balfour Declaration. New York: Simon and Schuster. p. 470.)

    1917 is a Jubilee year.

    50 years later = 1967 and another Jubilee year.

    “The liberation of Jerusalem in 1967 marked the first time in thousands of years that the entire city of Jerusalem, the holiest city in Judaism, was under Jewish sovereignty. The destruction of Jerusalem was a watershed event in Jewish history that began thousands of years of mourning for Jerusalem, so, it follows, that the reunification of Jerusalem should be a joyous celebration that begins the process of reversing thousands of years of destruction and exile. Jerusalem is central to the Jewish tradition. Jews face in the direction of Jerusalem and all of the prayer services are filled with references to Jerusalem.

    Oct 14, 1967 (Hebrew calendar, 5728) + 49 years = 10th of Tishrei, 5777 = Wed, 12 October 2016.

    Yom Kippur (Hebrew: יוֹם כִּפּוּר or יום הכיפורים), Also known as Day of Atonement, is the holiest day of the year for the Jews. Its central themes are atonement and repentance. Jews traditionally observe this holy day with a 25-hour period of fasting and intensive prayer, often spending most of the day in synagogue services. Yom Kippur completes the annual period known in Judaism as the High Holy Days (or sometimes “the Days of Awe”).

    Blood Moons: Passover and Feast of Tabernacles occurring in 2014 and 2015.

    Sackcloth Sun: Spring Equinox, 2015.

    Does the Day of The Lord begins after the last Blood Moon, occurring on Feast of Tabernacles, 2015 (Hebrew calendar – Tishri, 5776)?

    1967 + 50 years = 2017

    1947 + 70 years = 2017

    All thing will be complete by no later than a day/hour within 2017 (probably during Feast of Atonement, 2017).

    Seal 1 opened with Obama (events between 2008-2010)

    Seal 2 opened with Arab Spring in 2010 (KJ word “earth” is region). Another key word is “rebellion” within the Arab Spring region.

    Seal 3 opened with economic/inflation in the region (Greece to Spain, Libya to Syria and Turkey). But 3rd open seal didn’t harm the oil/wine, Israel.

    Seals 4-5 are spiritual realm events and not upon the earth.

    Seal 6 is currently opening – Blood Moons (Hebrew Feast Passover/Tabernacles 2014-15) and Total Solar Eclipse (sack cloth sun) on Spring Equinox, visible over EU (Vatican and Jerusalem), 2015.

    I’m expecting the following very soon:

    1) NYC will be hit with a nuke (Rev 18:1-20). They will blame ISIS. The USA goes into chaos. US implements Marshall law.

    2) The son of perdition is revealed to the world. This will awaken every virgin (foolish and wise). There will be no misinterpretation. It is the only worldwide event that has a common understanding to every Christian on the planet.

    3) There will be a great earthquake – literally, maybe. I think and believe it is more likely a shaking of closely held secular worldview (paradigms) and religious dogma. This great earthquake would shake the foundations of man made institutions, revealing the wicked and the righteous.

    You may appreciate this video.

    Blessings

    • you think seals 4 and 5 are just events in the spiritual realm??

      have you heard of ISIS?

      Boko Haram?

      Hamas?

      seal 3 has not happened yet…it will be a world wide famine., not confined to a small area

      • Thanks for your reply.

        I’d take the time to write the Greek text translation of “earth” within seal 2 but don’t have the inclination.

        Seal 2 opened with Arab Spring (rebellion) in the region. It is not worldwide rebellion or revolts on the “earth” as those with a Greek mindset, filled with Theology led us to think. Same crowd promoting “Rapture” and “left behind” that make millions off books and a move, promoting a worldwide revolt.

        I don’t think Uruguay or Iceland experienced a revolt, per the opening of the 2nd seal.

        Seal 5.

        “When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, ‘How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?’

        Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed” (NKJV).

        This is a conversation and event in heaven.

        You think these souls with white robes are only those slain for the Word during the first through 4th seal, yes?

        How many were slain throughout the world since Stephen was stoned?

        Did they all (since Stephen’s day) receive white robes?

        Yes.

        I think this group in heaven is all those slain for the Word of God and their testimony – otherwise Stephen would be standing in the lobby talking with James, Peter, Paul and thousands of others without white robes. Just hanging out.

        The number of slain for the Word and testimony is going to increase (Rev. 12:11).

        Seal 4

        “When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come and see.”

        So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth” (NKJV).

        The one riding the pale (greenish) horse is given power. It is a power that is given but it ain’t used over 1/4 of the earth quite yet.

        Given does not mean in use at the time. His power will be applied as we read later.

        Seal 3

        “When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, ‘Come and see.’

        So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand.

        And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, ‘A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine'” (NJKV).

        You think this is world wide famine, yes?

        Where in the text do you find a famine “worldwide” or such an event covering the earth?

        Where do you find anywhere in the text a “famine” or any shortage by way of worldwide lack of water or whatever, harming wheat and barley production?

        The text says its only wheat and barley – no reference to rice, corn, beans, greens, potatoes, apples or even to carrots.

        But, don’t harm the olive oil and grapes for wine.

        Wow! Spot shortage of wheat and barley because those fields didn’t get rain while the field of carrots across the road did get rain.

        The bottom line –

        “For when they say, ‘Peace and safety!’ then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.

        But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness” (NJKV).

        Let’s keep it up until “this Day” should overtake the readers of Heaven Awaits.

        Do you know the difference between foolish and wise virgins?

        Don’t you think it’s important for virgins to comprehend the difference and prepare their vessel accordingly for His return?

        Thoughts?

        Blessings
        Rev. 12:11

        • if all these were short lived and very limited geographically, then it would seem they would be like all other such events in history…..

          WW 2 was the biggest war in human history, and you claim arab spring is more significant than that, by making it a seal

          and the choice of food mentioned is to represent ALL the food…otherwise it is not a problem, and not worthy of being significant enough to be a seal ….why would a seal consist of a shortage of 2-3 items of food when other food is still more available?

  39. They updated the graphics to Dewy’s presentation. It much better.

  40. The bottom line –
    “For when they say, ‘Peace and safety!’ then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.
    But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness” (NJKV).

    Keep it up until “this Day” overtakes many readers of Heaven Awaits.

    Blessings

  41. Hi Marianne,
    I have some very positive news!!! I have a WATCHER who regularly gives me an update on the findings concerning our Lord’s Agenda for the last days. – 2 days ago, a certain “Randy” who lives in the States, found that there were TWO rebuildings of the wall in Jerusalem. it was a certain Sultan Suleiman from the Ottoman Empire who rebuilt the lion’s gate in Jerusalem August 20 1539
    Starting date: Aug 20, 1539 ….ADD 156,240 days (Daniel’s 62 weeks of years – 62 x 7 = 434 years– times 360 days/year = 156,240 days ) and you get June 7, 1967- When you get the Re-building of the wall again.

    So in Daniel chapter 9 – we have 70 Shebuah from 14th March 445BC to Jesus as Lamb of God on Palm Sunday (Nisan 10) to redeem His people,

    Then we have 62 Shebuah from Nisan 10 (6 April 32AD) to 7th June 1967 when Israel Redeemed Jerusalem in the 6-Day war.

    So we have 70 Shebuah (Weeks of years x 360days) till the SECOND rebuilding, (by Sultan Suleiman)

    Then we have 62 Shebuah to the END of Gentile period on June 7th 1967, then: –
    7 Shebuah (49yrs x 360days) to the Yom Kippur in the year of Jubilee, being 23rd September 2015! – 5 days BEFORE the BLOOD Moon!!!

    We then have the REMAINING ONE Shabuah (7years of Tribulation) to the END.
    – 70, 62, 7, 1. Weeks/Shabuah

    http://www.setterfield.org/Jerusalem_Wall.html is the address concerning the SECOND rebuilding of the WALL in Jerusalem.

    I seems to be that there could be the First Fruits Rapture/WEDDING where the ELECT or CHOSEN Bride goes to heaven prior to the Coronation of Jesus at His Second Coming, Mid-way the Tribulation.

    Mark 13:20. And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath SHORTENED THE DAYS.

    Luke 12:35. Let your loins be girded about, and [your] lights burning;
    36. And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, WHEN HE WILL RETURN FROM THE WEDDING; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.
    37. Blessed [are] those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find WATCHING: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

    SO GUYS! September 23 (Jerusalem time) is the date to watch!

    Luke 17:34. I tell you, in that night there shall be two [men] in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
    35. Two [women] shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    36. Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    • interesting olaf

      I think there are two harvests….one early, spring…the later one in the fall….

      Harvest Times in the Last Days

      the first may go up firs as it is ready, and delicate..would not be able to tolerate tribulation ( church of Philadelphia) and the second harvest is at the second coming.

  42. Olaf,

    The son of perdition is coming in Hebrew year 5776, which begins Sept. 15, 2015. That is what’s coming.

    My Lord returns at the end of tribulation (Matthew 24:29-35).

    “Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves…when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors! Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place…” (Matthew 24:32-35).

    “Can we know what is the length of this ‘generation’ that Jesus spoke about?

    And can we know exactly what He meant by the fig tree “putting forth leaves”?

    There are 7 definitions and 7 is the number of completeness.

    1) According to Gen. 6:3 it may be as long as 120 years.
    2) Genesis 15:13, coupled with Gen. 15:16 indicates 100 years.
    3) Psalms 90:10 indicates a possible 80 years.
    4) Psalms 90:10 also indicates a more likely 70 years.
    5) Matthew 1:17 may indicate around 50 years
    6) Psalms 95:10 indicates 40 years.
    7) Deut. 2:14 indicates 38 years.

    2017 – Using ALL 7 generations, based on the premise of ISRAEL being the fig tree Jesus spoke about in the end times:

    1) 2017 counting back a 120 year generation = 1897.
    Significant event: The first ever Zionist congress was held in Basel, Switzerland in 1897.

    2) 2017 counting back a 100 year generation = 1917.
    Significant event: The first official political act paving the way for Jews to return to their land was the Balfour Declaration of November 1917.

    3) 2017 counting back a 80 year generation = 1937.
    Significant event: The Peel Commission published a report that for the first time recommended partition of Palestine, and the land under it’s authority be apportioned between an Arab and Jewish state. The plan was declared unimplementable.

    4) 2017 counting back a 70 year generation = 1947.
    Significant event: The United Nations general assembly voted in favour of the Partition Plan that actually created… the State of Israel!

    5) 2017 counting back a 50 year generation = 1967.
    Significant event: The Jews regained Jerusalem, fulfilling“when the fig tree putteth forth leaves.”

    Choosing a 50 year generation requires some explanation. Some people have reckoned on a 50 year generation, starting with 70 using Psalm 90:10 for an average age, and then taking away 20, because those under 20 years old who came out of Egypt were not counted, as mentioned fifteen times in the book of Numbers, Chapter 1.

    6) 2017 counting back a 40 year generation = 1977.
    Significant event: The State of Israel reaches the Jewish ‘age of maturity.’ In the Old Testament Bible, priests could not work in the tabernacle until age 30. See Numbers 4:3.

    This was when they were considered mature. Modern Israel was born in 1947.

    Now do the calculation: 1947 + 30 = 1977.

    ‘When the fig tree putteth forth leaves’ could be considered as another way of saying “when Israel becomes mature.’ An example of this maturity is that the Liqud political party came to power in Israel in 1977. The Hebrew word Liqud means ‘The Consolidation’ in English.

    7) 2017 counting back a 38 year generation = 1979.
    Significant event: Israel signs a peace treaty with Egypt. Other than the events already mentioned I’m thinking this would be considered the other most positive historical step towards modern Israel’s expansion, showing “the fig tree putting forth leaves”. It led to many long term benefits, such as providing for the free passage of Israeli ships through the Suez Canal.

    And is 2017 really significant?

    2017 is the Jubilee (Leviticus 25:10) when counting back to 1967 (Jubilee).

    In 1967, Israel gained control over Jerusalem for the first time since the days of King Solomon” (Nicetiming).

    The above was written by blogger, Nicetiming, posted within his blog and posted as a reply within Heaven Awaits.

    1967 + 50 years (Leviticus 24:8-11) = 2017.

    2015-2016 (Hebrew year 5776) is the year of the “all seeing eye” being revealed, made manifest.

    The “prophecy” presented by Cahn is crap.

    Blessings
    Rev. 12:11

  43. Marianne and Olaf,

    Okay – the 6th week begins September 15 (Hebrew year 5776 begins) or after Sept 28th (last Blood Moon). God has a 7th day of rest, established in the Beginning. There are 7 days (years) of Daniel’s week, which included the Sabbath day (year).

    Cahn is a classic but very persuasive false prophet receiving serious money but he’s not The False Prophet.

  44. 573bc +2520 (7 times )=1947ad
    1947+70 (generation)= 2017

    Right !

  45. Yahveh is not willing that any should perish. We are in effect living on burrowed time! 2 Peter 3:-9

    8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

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