Does the antichrist need a temple to stand in the holy place?
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The coming Antichrist stands in the holy place and commits his abomination of desolation. How much of a temple, if any, is required for him to do this?
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The predicted abomination of desolation – quick review
Jesus said:
Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that reads understand,) then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains:
What Daniel said:
Dan 11:29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
Who is “he?”
Dan 11:7 But out of a branch of her [king's daughter of the south - union with king of north] roots shall [one] stand up in his estate, which shall come with an army, and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the north, and shall deal against them, and shall prevail:
Dan 11:31 And arms (forces) shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that makes desolate.
Dan 12:11 And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days. (43 months)
**Note – 2 ways to read this:
1. so the daily sacrifice is removed first, and then the abomination occurs 43 months later. Once the abomination occurs, Jacob’s trouble begins another 1260 days, or 42 months.
2. the daily sacrifice is first taken away, then 30 days later the abomination occurs, which starts the 1260 days of Jacob’s trouble. The total number of days is 1290.
http://www.templeinstitute.org/birds_eye.htm
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What kind of “holy place” are they referring to?
Possibilities:
1. the outer holy place, that is the entrance to the Holy of Holies, in the real final rebuilt temple
2. the site where the holy place used to be, when the temple was still standing. This currently is inside the Al- Sakhra Mosque- on the Dome of the Rock. (area “C” on image above)
3. a temporary structure for training Levites, in which sacrifices are made, and a holy place is assembled. I heard there is one somewhere, but I don’t know its location.
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Thought:
Possibly, to God, the “holy place” will always be the original “holy place,” no matter what is there. And whatever is there either desecrates it, or affirms its holiness.
Suppose the man of sin visited the future site of the 3rd temple, and stood in the lobby of the Al- Sakhra Mosque (area “C” on image above)????
Would that be enough to fulfill prophecy?
The Jews do not plan to have a 3rd temple until the Messiah comes, indicating they will not build one unless the Messiah is around first. They believe the Messiah himself will direct the building of the 3rd temple.
This means that whatever the man of sin uses will not be the real final temple, built by Messiah.
So what does he use?
Daniel 11:21-24 said he would come in peacefully, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
Daniel 11:31 said that “arms” would stand on “his part,” meaning there are military forces or soldiers on his part of the temple mount, and implies the “other part” belongs to the Jews. Apparently, the original “holy place” is still on his side.
So the temple mount is divided?
There has been some political talk of dividing the temple mount, and putting a new temple beside the mosque. Maybe this kind of agreement will occur in the future.
Here is some of the current discussion:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-153892508.html
If so,
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Conclusion
Then all the antichrist has to do is stand in the lobby of the mosque, and declare himself God, since the mosque sits on the original holy place.
If true, then watch all future political and spiritual leaders, if they visit the temple mount. Watch their behavior, and be prepared for anything. Or watch for their holograms!!!!
Maybe the antichrist will give us a clue, by first standing in our holy places (what is holy to us), and making them his. Once he gains victory, he moves on to the temple mount.
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What do you think? Is a temple needed for the antichrist to commit his abomination?
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I’m just not sure that the Dome of the Rock is the location of the earlier Temples. I’ve been in the mosque, and you can see many chiseled troughs on the rock’s surface. The troughs are obviously there for a liquid to run off quickly. I suspect it was for the blood from sacrificed lambs.
Some scholars place the original site of the Temple just inside the Eastern Gate, which Jesus will one day enter thru. Lately, it has also been noticed that one rock slab there is greatly different from the rest surrounding it. Some think this one rock slab was where the Ark of the Covenent once stood.
Nor am I convinced that the Israelis will not build a Temple soon. It is an ongoing argument whether they are to wait for the Messiah or not. And rumors abound that not only have they already remade the implements of the Temple, but also have the rocks carved from which to quickly assemble the Temple.
It would not surprise me if soon we see a dividing wall on the Temple Mount, and then see the new Temple built just inside the Eastern Gate.
Like most prophesies, we have to wait and see just how they are fulfilled. DavWms
Hi david,
I would really like to see what they do on the temple mount…..and actually live to see it before we “leave.”
I thought this post was quite interesting and definitely spurred some serious thought. But I am tempted take the prophecies of Daniel back to the time of the Intertestamental period. I believe those prophecies where fulfilled at that point. Antiochus Epiphanes IV thought himself a god and stepped into the temple, desecrating it by sacrificing a pig on the alter. You can clearly see a sort of foreshadow of the anti-christ. His name alone, Antiochus Epipanes, means God made manifest. Jesus Christ is the one and only God manifested in the flesh.
You can hypothesize that Antiochus Epipanes, at the end of the age of the law, sought to desecrate God’s Holy Place (the temple). This system was set in place by Moses, one of God’s great mouthpieces. On the other hand, Jesus Christ, the son of God, and the true manifestation of God in the flesh (not Antiochus), has set in motion the period of grace. Jesus came, not to establish another physical temple, but to tabernacle with man and man with God. Our bodies have become the temple. We can hypothesize that at the end of this age there will be a second Antiochus, an anti-christ, who will seek to desecrate God’s holy place. The place God has established as his temple. I believe the anti-christ will seek and is seeking now to desecrate God’s temple.
The temple is not only individual Christians but the church as a whole. We can clearly see the desecration already taking place. Government is slowly forcing its way into the church, attempting to dictate what believes and pastors should and should not preach (under the guise of political correctness and discrimination). But what will be the ultimate culmination of this desecration? What do you think?
hi trevauhn,
I think you were reading my mind. I had hinted at the end that the antichrist would try to stand in “our” holy place, making us his. This is the greatest danger, since once he has won favor with the population, he is free to do anything he wants next. Our holy place is our souls…and we need to guard our minds, thoughts, and behavior…and stay close to God….it will be easy to be led astray if we depart from our first love, and find our own temples defiled.
great comment….thanks
Many prophesies have a double fulfillment. In any case, I think we have to consider that during the millenium, there will be sacrificing of lambs again. Will this be without a Temple nearby? DavWms
HI david,
I forgot to mention this to trevaughn, but I think Antiochus only party fulfilled the prophecy. There also have been plenty of Antichrist figures invading Jerusalem and desecrating holy ground. also, Antiochus did not have any covenant with Israel that he broke, and he was not stopped by the Messiah.
the 3rd temple seems due. Prophecy indicates that when the Messiah returns, he will sit in the temple….I guess that is the literal one that Ezechiel saw in his vision.
Another thing to consider is that all earthly inhabitants will have to visit Jerusalem during the millenium. (Is it annually?) What will they come for, to worship at the Temple? Remember, the court of the gentiles will no longer be there.
As for the Temple being in the heart of the Church, and even tho that is true, we have to consider something else. There, we are talking about the Bride, and the Bride does not have the same destiny as the Jews. The Bride will be living in Heavenly bodies, while the Jews will yet be living in earthly bodies thruout the 1,000 yrs. So when we talk about the Temple here, we must be talking about the physical one on the Temple Mount. DavWms
Jesus said when you see the abomination that casues desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel…And Jesus said that the people of Israel should not even go down and get their cloak but instead flee to the mountains as fast as possible. Why? Because the armies of the antichrist will rape the women and do vile things, as many many Old Test passages predict. In regaurds to this,Daniel stated:
And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. ”
Daniel 9:26-27 (in Context) Daniel 9 (Whole Chapter)
# Daniel 11:31
“His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
Armies of the A/C shall stop the Jewish sacriice and there the A/C shall proclaim himself God…and then the desolation shall take place
To answer your question, no, but I expect there will need to be an altar in order for the sacrifices to be done properly. The Scripture says that the Messiah will rebuild the third temple, but the altar will undoubtedly be the first thing built and could be built by man first. Considering they have the animals ready for sacrifice and each year try to reinstate the Passover sacrifice, this could happen anytime.
I thought this site was interesting and offers a different location:
http://becomingone.org/templemount.htm
Hi Gina.
thanks for the link. good info.
Where is the temple of the Lord? Again I ask, where is the temple of the Lord today? Answer this question and you will understand how these things will come to pass.
1 Corinthians 3:16.
Wherefore then is the Holy place?
Blessings,
Tim
PS. If it’s any help to you. Messiah has already built the temple. Why are you looking for another one?
Hi Tim,
I wonder if the original prophecy took into consideration the temple as being our spirit, instead of a building.
Marianne,
As you know prophecy often has a dual fulfillment, whether or not Daniel understood that the prophecy would apply to a spiritual temple I do not know.
Paul alluded to the mystery that we speak of when he said in 1 Corinthians 15:46 The spiritual does not come first, but the physical does, and then comes the spiritual.
In the same way that the circumcision was physical, in Christ it is spiritual. Messiah has built the temple, and it is not physical, as was the Jewish temple, but spiritual.
If you want some further understanding on this Antichrist in the temple issue, read closely and prayerfully the teaching of Paul in 2 Thessalonians, chapter 2.
Blessings,
Tim
There certainly will be a third physical temple made according to the Biblical instructions. Take a look at Zechariah 8 and 14 again. The last 8 chapters of Ezekiel also give us a picture of the 3rd temple and reinstatement of the sacrificial system during the Millennium.
Gina,
Perhaps there will be another temple, as you say. Perhaps there will be a re-introduction of the sacrificial system, as you say. If so I imagine that God will think it an abomination.
Do you understand what you are saying. That that sacrifice of Christ was not sufficient to satisfy the wrath of God. So now He is suggesting that sacrifice will be required once more.
A new temple, when Christ suffered on the cross, as a propitiation for our sin, that He might establish to Himself a new living temple, not made with mens hands.
Did Christ suffer and die in vain, was all of that counted as nothing and now we return to temple worship and the law of Moses.
I don’t see why we keep looking to a new physical temple. Perhaps I am missing the point. Please explain why the return to temple worship and sacrificial offering?
Blessings,
Tim
Hi Flee the wrath
The atonement offering for sin may no longer be necessary, but that was only offered once a year anyhow, on Yom Kippur.
There were many elevation offerings, praise offerings, dedication offerings, thanksgiving offerings, etc. that could still be offered – more to honor God, than to appease wrath.
Tim, this is not about the Christians needing a Temple. This is about setting things up again for the 70th week of Daniel. (The grand finale’)This is only considering the Jews and their, “Jacobs Trouble.” Not only are they likely to have a 3rd Temple, but the rest of the world will also form back to much like it was when Jesus went to the Cross and the Temple was burned. Essentially the same “”Roman Empire” will again be in charge. DavWms
DavWms,
Thanks, I appreciate the other angle.
I guess it concerns me, and it seems to me that there is a large portion of the church that is completely unaware or not mindful of the fact that satans’ pursuit at this time is the temple of the Holy Spirit. He desires to usurp the worship that belongs to God, and he is doing very well.
Lucifer desires to sit upon the mount of the congregation, to deceive. To sit in the Holy place.
We look at this new temple teaching, we sit in our comfy churches just waiting for Lucifer to come and deceive the Jews in a new physical temple, but in reality Lucifer is working away in the Spiritual temple, men are believing the lie, and perishing in the pews.
Blessings,
Tim
Hi Tim,
True, people should be more concerned with their own inner temples than a future building. If there is one, then we cannot merit entering into it, if our souls are defiled. The inner temple is of the greater importance.
excellent points everyone. it was a pleasure to read. regardless of either view you might hold to may it burn the light of Christ brighter in out hearts to draw all men unto Him. one thing for sure the day is closer. Satan knows his time is short. Pray to the Lord of the harvest to send workers into the field. Put on the full armor of God.
Hi Mike,
Both temples exist in some way.
Originally, the building foreshadowed the spiritual temple.
Now, maybe the spiritual temple is foreshadowing the next building.
Revelation 11:1 ¶ And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
That makes it clear that there will be a temple. I have also heard that the location of the “Dome of the Rock” is not the location of the temple. It may rather be where the Al Aqsa mosque is now.
GYOD, the mosque is built right over the rock peak of the mountain. That mosque is called, “The Dome of the Rock.” So they are one and the same. Scroll up some (about 20) and see the post I made on this subject. But you are right, that there will be a Temple on the mount.
BTW, when we were in the mosque with our guide, we were told some of the building materials for it were taken from the ruins of the previous Temple. And that some of the writings on the walls were blasphemy against Jesus. DavWms
David, the scripture, I quoted, states that is the temple of God. Either it is holy in total or it is unholy. Just because there is some material from the old temple does not make this place acceptable and I assume that no priest will offer any sacrifice there.
Hi all. A most interesting topic. Have you ever considered that the “sacrifice to be ended” might in fact be the Holy Eucharist, or for want of a better word the commemoration of the Body and Blood of Christ that most Christians partake of during Sunday worship. Christ told all of us that the temple would be destroyed and that he would rebuild it within three days. Thus I assume that it is safe to say that the temple is one built by Christ himself in the spiritual as well as physical sense. Of course the spiritual followed His physical death and resurection. Perhaps we can deduce that the abomdination will occur within the Christian Church, for this is in fact the true temple of God.
Hi Peter,
It seems abomination can occur on several levels
within ourselves
within our nations / society
within our churches
within a future or current building, used as a temple
Amen Peter,
The apostle Paul speaks of the one who sits in the temple, presuming to be God, as the son of perdition. 2 Thes 2:3.
There was only one other son of perdition. Judas, who was of the 12, he was in the fellowship of believers, but no one knew this until the appointed time came. Then son of perdition was revealed, and the Christ was betrayed.
When men sit in the temple of God, presuming that the gospel of Christ and godliness is a means of financial gain, they become just as Judas. Ultimately, in the latter days, I believe that those who value their treasure more than truth will sell and betray the body of Christ into the hands of unjust men. There is nothing new under the sun.
Blessings,
Tim
Peter, the “Holy Eucharist” is an abomination in God’s eyes. The doctrine of transubstantiation is of occult nature.
Yes Marianne. I agree. All said and done we have no power over that which is inevitable save to safeguard our own thoughts and deeds. I believe that salvation is a personal voyage that starts with developing a personal relationship with Christ. Evil does at this very moment surround us and touch everything that you mentioned, but it is up to the individual to find Christ. If more of us were to be true and fearless Christians and not merely claim to be as such then perhaps we wouldnt be so fearful of the persecution to come. One thing that we cannot do is rewrite the Good Book.
Hi Marianne,
“Holy Stone, Holy Stone … Holy Holy Stone … in the future the nations will defile you by placing dead bodies on top of you, sullying the Holy Place”
These are the words of Rabbi Elezar crying out and echoing through the centuries.
The Rock , the Pierce Stone is the Rock upon which the Ark of the Everlasting Covenent was laid upon.
And from this Foundation Stone the world was founded.
And from this Holy Stone God accepted the sacrifices of Adam, Abel, Noah, and
Abraham when by faith he offered his son Isaac unto God.
Upon this most Holy Stone the High Priest burned incense and sprinkled the blood of the sacrifices on it on the day of Atonement.
This Holy Stone is the centre of the World, the centre of Jerusalem, the centre of Judaism, the centre of true Christianity (those who believe and obey the entirety of the Holy Scriptures).
The Pierce Stone, the centre of the Sanctuary, the centre of the Universe,
the centre of Truth is the same Stone now DORMANT under the Dome of The Rock.
When Jesus Says : ‘ But when you shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, STANDING where it ought not, (let him the reads understand,) then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains:
And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither (therein), to take any thing out of his house:
But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
And pray that your flight be not in the winter.
For in those days shall be afflictions ( a crippling affliction to the nervous system) such as not from the beginning of the creation of God created unto this time, neither shall be.
And except that the LORD had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved. (Mark 13 : 14, 20)
I don’t think The Lord is speaking of levels here although who can know the depths of His Wisdom.
This is a very physical, 3D, factual, truthful prophesy!
Do not be allured!
Why is it that there seems to be many who would twist The Words of The Lord into some fascinating, incredible fantasy of spiritualism based doctrine??
Now to continue my discourse …
We all know that the Temple was destroyed in 69-70 A.D. by the Romans;
A terrible epoch.
Even from then to now, they are still digging and searching and desecrating this Holy site.
They do not fear God!!
*****But which is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifies the gift???????
Answer this and you have answered whether or not the antichrist needs a temple to stand in the holy place.
I will leave my discourse with this … for now.
Abigail,
Read Corinthians.
1Cr 3:16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
1Cr 3:17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
1Cr 3:18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise.
I’m pretty sure that the apostle Paul was not talking to a rock. He was actually talking to people, the Corinthian church. They were the temple of God. As those of us who are of the Christian faith.
Messiah has built His temple!
Blessings,
Tim
hi Tim
Good discussions. It looks like he is already here, then.
Tim, Corinthians does not exclude that there will be a future temple. God said in the OT that once the remnant Israelites will be purified and sanctified they will bring acceptable sacrifices unto Him.
God is only interested in one temple. He shed His own blood to build it. The only acceptable sacrifice pertaining to purification and sanctification is when the Israelite believes upon the sacrifice of the lamb, of God.
There is no other acceptable sacrifice in light of the completed work of Christ.
I didn’t say that they will not build a new temple, however I doubt they will. What I am saying is if they do, unless Christ is to be found in it, then it is an abomination as far as God is concerned.
Blessings,
Tim
Man was given 6,000 years to be a fool.
Coming to a close shortly.
Yes I am the Temple of The Living God for Christ dwells in me. I am born again but this time my birth is from The Mighty Spirit of The Father of Jesus Christ, and not from my mother who bore this earthly vessel.
Yes and I am confident that any who would try to destroy this vessel will answer to God, because Him who dwells in me is much Mightier than he who dwells in the world. And I am holy because I walk with God in perfect Holiness. I am Holy because He is Holy and He is with me.
And I know Paul was writing to the church in Corinth.
And God is able out of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
But here Jesus is speaking to His students (disciples) and instructing them as to the end of this world, which we most certainly are in its last moments.
Jesus is describing the scenario of the last days.
It’s like when Jesus told his disciples that the Temple in Jerusalem would be destroyed and they are still turning every stone to find the gold.
Word in package which says “for that day shall not come to pass..” is not typical Greek word for physical Jerusalem based Temple (look for it yourself)!
SO, WHAT EVER IT IS IT IS NOT HOLY TEMPLE LIKE THAT ONE OF SOLOMON!
AND it is really pagan to even think that Jews really would worship lucifer that way, some think so, wich is sad, BECAUSE His Word NEVER EVER SAYS THAT THEY WOULD BUILD TEMPLE FOR SATAN, OR EVEN THAT THEY WOULD EVEN BUILD ANY KIND OF TEMPLE THEMSELVES!!!
JUST SOME “SELF PREACHERS” TEACH UN-BIBLICAL STUFF, BUT AS IS WRITTEN SO IT IS: “A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.”.
May G-d bless you and guide you wherever and whenever you are.
GYOD, I don’t know how you read into my post above, that I claim the Dome of the Rock will be used as the Temple. My point has been consistant that the Temple will NOT be built over the spot the Dome is built on. But rather, North of this, and closer to the Eastern gate. And that the one peculiar rock slab recently noticed there North of the Dome, may have been what the Ark of the Covenant once sat upon. Again, placing the Temple other than over the rock peak.
The BTW I added about the material used to build the Dome was merely some interesting side info. DavWms
Hi Marianne,
The antichrist comes in peace.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090506/world/vatican_pope_holy_land
He will stand on ‘precipice’ as well.
Marianne;
If this man could make such a magniicent model of Herod’s Temple can you image the one they could build for the Third Temple.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1155962/Pensioner-spends-30-years-building-amazing-model-Herods-Temple—admits-wont-finish-it.html
Kittii
I believe there will be no physcial temple, Jesus is the temple and He is in us via the Holy the Lord said. The abomination is the apostasy that is running rampant in the vast majority of christianity. Elimination of the daily sacrifice comes from apostate teachings that say obeying gods commands is optional to our salvation. Jesus said if we wanted to follow up to DENY OURSELVES DAILY. When we are taught not to deny ourselves and that it doesnt matter, that is elimination/cessation of the daily sacrifice. Disobeying God desolates oneself and separates them from God. Jesus said only those that do the will of father in heaven shall enter the kingdom. THe devil has been lying from day one telling eve she would not die by disobeying God. Anti Christs are everywhere, they are in the pulpits of most churches deceiving the flock.
HI Pete,
You are right about the final “temple”….
Revelation 21:22 states there will be no “building” that is the final temple, since the Lord is our temple.
But, there is still the prophecy of Ezechiel’s temple, which we have not seen yet. I wonder when that will happen.
Another thought I had while I was reading your comment…..the daily sacrifice was to cease when the antichrist spirit entered the temple……..the church used to have communion daily…now it is a rare event to have this memorial of sacrifice in our own temples……..I see many churches only do it once a year now.
Hi Marianne,
What do you mean by communion everyday?
The passover is once a year, is it not?
How can the antichrist enter the Temple ( the earthly vessel of clay) when The Christ,
the Spirit of God dwells in there???
Hi Abigail.
I meant that the early church “broke bread” and had communion daily, as they added to the church. Passover is a yearly feast, but communion was daily. Now we do not see much of this anymore….we belong to Christ, but somehow, we are not doing this “in remembrance,” as he commanded us to do. Maybe we should do this daily again.
True the early church had ALL things in common. The early church shared bread and fish and wine etc. and their visions and the word of The Lord, and their encounters,
and their prayers, etc…
To remember The Lord daily is not a choir … how can one being a Christian forget to meditate and think on Him daily??
And all of His Commandments and instructions should be obeyed.
He is The Lord.
But Marianne please explain to me the answer to my last question.
How can the antichrist enter the Temple ( earthly vessel of clay) while Christ dwells
therein??
I ask this because the subject here is whether the antichrist needs a temple to stand in the Holy Place? Or not?
Many say that they are the temple of God, and that is true if the person bears The Holy Spirit.
How is it possible for the antichrist to possess such a person since that individual has the name Of God in them??
How can the antichrist stand IN the Holy Place if the Holy Place is a living person???
p.s.
When The Lord said at Passover ‘do this in remembrance of Me’, He was specifically instructing His disciples to Remember that HE, The Lord, is the Passover Lamb of God.
Hi Abigail,
Perhaps read 2 Corinthians 6 for a further explanation. According to Paul it is possible to receive the Spirit of Grace in vain.
Therefore it is not always a simple “God is in you and you are saved scenario”
Paul then goes on to warn the Corinthians of the peril of mixing righteousness with unrighteousness, light and darkness, Christ and Belial (the devil), the temple with idolatry.
Then further commanding them to come out from among them.
It’s not a simple I have the Spirit and am therefore saved scenario as you would like to presume. It is this “as many are lead by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God”
The temple of God is defiled when we continue to walk in hard hearted disobedience.
At the end of the age there is a kingdom called Mystery Babylon. She influences the world with her idolatry, and yet God has to command His people to come out of her lest they share in her destruction. Rev 18. Mystery Babylons gift to the world is idolatry, and many of His people are to be found in her.
Being filled with the Spirit is only half the story. Are you willing to be lead by the Spirit? This is where the wheat and the chaff are separated.
And this is where it temple of the Lord is defiled.
Bless you, may we be lead down paths of righteousness in this day.
Tim
Hi Tim,
The very name Babylon (Babel Tower) = religious confusion says a lot.
As though there is another portal of entry to God.
Righteousness is obedience to The Lord.
Blasphemy is what is written of the mystery of Babylon.
In the holy scriptures it tells you what blasphemy is.
Mat 26:64
Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mat 26:65
Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy.
Jhn 10:33
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Rev 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.
This is what blasphemy is.
1- Making yourself equal or above God.
2 – Being a man making thyself God.
Now The Lord was not blaspheming because He is God.
He also says that the blasphemy against The Father will be forgiven.
The blasphemy against the Son of God will be forgiven.
But the blasphemy against His Holy Spirit will never be forgiven.
Not in this world nor in the world to come.
The temple of The Lord will NEVER be defiled.
It is written; ‘ No one will pluck you out of My Hand.’
I would never take The Holiness of The Lord lightly.
And The Lord never gives His Spirit to idolaters.
My salvation is sure and my name is written in The Lord’s book of Life.
I am in the world but not of it.
And my path is narrow because I do His Commandments.
Again I stress to you that The Lord’s Temple will never be defiled.
Hi Abigail,
I think Tim’s point is that someone who says they are a Christian, but accepts sin into their lives, is not, or is no longer, a true believer, and has rejected Christ in their spirits.
This is part of the great falling away in the church.
Christians ignore the commandments of God, and seek worldly or ungodly things instead.
They are therefore, “fallen away,” and have accepted the spirit of Antichrist into their own temples.
Hi Marianne,
Should we have to redefine what or who the antichrist is ?
There are four scriptures on this issue.
1Jo 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jo 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jo 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jo 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Which one of these speaks of the antichrist entering the Temple of
THE LORD?/
What is our own temple?
Maybe here the confusion is that we are speaking of two different temples?
I don’t beleive denying christ simple means Jesus is the not the son of God. Even the demons encountered acknowledged he was indeed the christ. Denying christ means not believing in his power to change lives. Paul told timothy 2 tim 3:2-5 that in the latter times people would be living in sin, having a form of godliness but deny ther power. That is the work of the spirit of antichrist who was already in the world in John’s days.
Isn’t denying that Jesus is The Son Of God, also denying
The Son, The Father and the Power of God?
Yes demons know and tremble!
Only the arrogance of man would be such a fool.
As for having a form of godliness and denying the power therein … we certainly have enough denominations and so called churches who are just that, then as today.
Sin is transgression against The Laws of The Most High.
amen sister, that is the truth.
HI Abigail
I think there are 2 levels of interpretation: physical and spiritual.
1. the 3rd temple, prophesied by Ezechiel, which is yet to be built….for the jews, the man of sin will appear here
2. our own temple, which is our soul, the man of sin can enter there also.
The ‘man of sin’ can enter into the soul of your own temple??
How can that be????
for the Jews, the man of sin is a real physical leader….who invades the 3rd temple…this man works for satan
for the christians….the man of sin might be a leader in the physical world, but the actual force behind him, who is Satan, enters the heart…..
He can therefore enter the heart ONLY
if that heart does NOT belong to God.
Like Judas Escariot whom Satan entered.
Hi Marianne,
Another question … do you know that, the Holy Commandments of The Lord written, by the Finger of The Lord on tablets of stone, were written on tablets taken from The Foundation Stone which lies beneath the Dome Of the Rock???
I never heard of that.
Hi Marianne,
Here is the link from the Temple Institute. You can view all that this Foundation Stone,
stands for. People can either believe or not believe.
http://www.templeinstitute.org/gallery_2.htm
Turn the pages on this site.
Rapture alert!!!
Jesus is on His Way!!!!
Hi Abigail,
It’s not about a spirit of satan indwelling the heart or soul of the believer. It’s all about to whom do you present yourselves slaves to obey. Read Romans 6:16
Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin [leading] to death, or of obedience [leading] to righteousness?
It’s not a mystery, you are free to be lead by the spirit of God or lead by the spirit of the world.
God does indwell the believer and He does seek to lead, but when the temple of God chooses to offer itself to worldly and ungodly pursuits, the spirit of Antichrist has authority over the temple.
I see how people are living in this day. In the West we bow before our idols all week and then on Sunday pay lip service to God. We idolize so many things in this world and seek to make it acceptable to God by renaming it Christian. Christian entertainment, Christian banking and investment, Christian retail stores, Christian music, Christian entertainment. It’s all just idolatry….It’s carnal, and worldly and we veil as though it’s a form of righteousness.
Now in many of our churches we refuse to teach the whole counsel of God, preferring to tell stories and encouraging messages, not supposing that God may seek to rebuke the ones He loves. We seek to see the ministry exalted above the need of the believer. We prefer the esteem of men above God. We prefer to be seen in the 5000 strong church than sitting amongst the poor of this world.
And on top of this we pray that God would bless us with more, more finance, more prosperity, more provision, better jobs, better standard of living.We bow before mammon, while the world is going to hell. we do not know any more when enough is enough.
This is what it means to have Antichrist sitting in the temple of God. The people have been deceived, satan has usurped the true worship which belongs to a Holy God and we all sit in our Christian churches pointing at the Jews saying “look satan is going to deceive them when he sits in their new Jewish temple”
To whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, to this one you belong….
Tim.
Dear Tim,
Firstly the word slave occurs only twice in the holy scriptures, once in singular form and once in plural form.
In the other 400 translations or so, they seem to like that word ’slave’ a lot.
The law is very specific concerning servants and bond servants.
And I am a person who loves instruction to be precise.
Like it is written 1Cr 14:8
For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
But that is another topic.
Now concerning scriptures from Paul to the Romans;
Rom 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17
But God be thanked, that ye WERE the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the HEART that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18
Being then made FREE from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
‘Yield’ is the verb here, implying will.
‘And the verb ‘obey’ implying an action.
A very important fact since God has given man the choice of life or death.
But God knows the heart.
The Lord speaks of this matter as well;
Jhn 8:34
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
Jhn 8:35
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: [but] the Son abideth ever.
Jhn 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
My conclusion on this matter is thus:
The Lord is Truth!!!
If you are His sheep ….???
Jhn 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Jhn 10:28
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.
Jhn 10:29
My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father’s hand.
Jhn 10:30
I and [my] Father are one.
So the spirit of the antichrist CANNOT enter and DEFILE The Temple of The Lord!!
So you must remind yourself of this,
By their fruits you shall know them.
Simple, isn’t it?
And do not be so ready to use the word ‘we’, and the word ‘our church’ when you describe the Sunday hypocrites.
Because I am not of that fold.
I do not worship on Sunday!
I worship The Lord in Spirit and in Truth.
Because I would not worship in vain following the commandments of man.
this might sound crazy, but everyone has this talk of obama being antichrist. i dont personally believe this. my christian faith personally leads me to believe that obama will uncosiencly make a pathway for the antichrist. i believe that wen obama pulls all american troops out of iraq and such, then a man(probubly a polotician) from europe will enter the middle east. he will get on everyones good side, and lead then to believe he is messiah. this is wen they start rebuliding thier temple. the temple is gonna take 3 years or so to build. once this is don he will proclaim himself as god and want everyone elseto as well.. all around the world… if you donot proclaim his as god you will die right then and thier… if you do proclaim him as god you will live but will not enter the gates of heaven. my dad told me that if you start seeing this happen in the next few years.. stock up on food and whatever you can live underground with. take your family and run for the hills. and if this man or his followers do find you then let them take your life and die for jesus like he did you so you can live with him in an eternity of happieness. for sum reason i feel this is going to happen. can anyne tell me why with sum back up lol please and thankyou
also i heard this crazy joke story kind of thing that makes you thik… here it is… the only difference between heven and hell is this… both have a huge ginormous table with huge pots of stew down the middle of the table.. everyone has a seat on the table, everyone has a very very very long spoon stuck to thier arm.. the peole in hell are boe thin and starving becasue they are selfish and cant et thier spoon into thier own mouth.. the people in heaven are happy laughing and talking, nice and healthy because they are all feeding each other =]] isnt that cute?
Hi Geena
Yes, that is cute
I don’t recall Jesus ever critizing any true worship of him whether it be saturday or sunday. He himself rebuked the Pharisees who critizied him for “doing God’s work” on saturday. Teach them to obey everything I have comnanded you, he told them in mat 28 before he ascended to heaven. What did he command? Love the lord thy god with all your heart, mind and soul and love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus chunked it up to these two commandments. We the true brethren of Christ need to quit being nit picky on legal issues. We absolutely must obey, that is the gospel plain and simple, that is what real belief meant in the greek language. The professing church by and large is in apostasty, but indivual hearts is where the rubber meets the road. Satan will turn us into evil judges if we are not careful. None of us have all the light. Issues like the sabbath and what bible version are noise in the grand scheme of things. I am tired of hearing about these fleshly matters, the matters of the heart is what realy matters. Love God and Obey Him
Hi Pete,
Thanks for the insights. Out hearts are the temple of the Holy Spirit, and should only allow the holiest of experiences in it.
If we do this, there will be no Antichrist spirit in us.
Doctrinal interpretation comes and goes, but the pure heart beats on.
Hi Marianne ,
And blessed are the pure in heart… for they shall see God. Amen
Jam 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself
unspotted from the world.
This doctrine at the very least, should be encouraged.
Sad that many have itchy ears and deem obedience just plain too hard.
Thanks Pete, good advice. I do fear that I’ve become overly critical, judgemental, nit picky. I’ll take it on board.
Abigail, I do hear what you are saying and I guess in some regards it’s a little like the enduring argument that one who is saved cannot lose their salvation.
In the same way, how can those who serve God turn aside to serve satan. And as you say how can the temple of God also become defiled by satan.
Perhaps in this age, in our western culture, many who confess Christ are not His nor ever were. I do not know, though I wish I did.
As one who teaches I prefer to warn men as Christ warned men, to flee from their unrighteouss deeds.
If I have comforted those who are in their sin and they perish in it, I will give an account as to the soul of that one.
I appreciate you prefer to have an assurance of your salvation, as one who cannot be snatched from His hand.
Personally I prefer to warn men as Paul warned men to work their salvation out with fear and trembling.
There has been enough comfort offered in this generation to those who are clearly not Christs’. I do not intend to be a part of that movement
This is a day in which the comfortable ought to be made uncomfortable and the uncomfortable, comforted.
As the Apostle spoke, let him who thinks he stands take heed, lest he fall.
The way I see it, it really is pointless of Paul to make these type of comments if their is no risk to believers. And in this same context if we profess to be the Temple of the Holy Spirit, we better not defile it, for as Paul warned, God would destroy the one who defiles the temple.
If this teaching troubles you I am sorry for that, but it is better for us to warn men, who confess to be Christ’s. Warn them of their obligation and the great blessing that God has granted them, but at the same time, to whom much is given, much is expected.
Bless you.
Tim
Dear Tim,
Your teaching does not bother me.
Personally I blush easy. Shame for sins of the past, if someone brings them back to my remembrance, makes my blood rush to my face and tears fills my eyes.
I think there are levels of repentance and maybe not everyone expresses sincere regret or remorse. Again only The Lord knows the heart!
And one day it will be shown to us as well.
We do live in a most wicked and permissive society.
And even those who govern are guilty of much lawlessness.
It is not because of my righteousness but rather because of wickedness around me that I can truly say that I am filled with Light.
You do well to warn people and urge them to REPENT before God.
Thank you my friend.
What sits on the temple, presuming to be God? Well look what is built there.
Hi Cornishevenagelist,
you are right. the mosque has been there for centuries.
Hi Billy and Marianne,
Yes the dome of the Rock , ABOVE the Rock was completed ??? 691 A.D.
And by 705 A.D. the other mosque Al Aksa covered the Temple Mount.
What is and should be of interest to us Christians is the time period of this monstrosity since if you look at the prophesy in Daniel ‘ concerning the abomination
of desolation’ this fits perfectly like a glove.
I am posting a link here that speaks of this time period.
Although I personally think that it points more to 2,009 A.D. than to 2,006 A.d.
But if 2,006 is correct then we are already half way through the tribulation, leaving only 3 1/2 years for ALL prophesy to be accomplished.
Here is this link:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2006/ear825.htm
Do not be quick to dismiss this I pray!!
Another point to consider is this…’Who is the desolate???’
Answer ‘Is it not the children of Agar??’
Many are the children of the desolate.
Marianne;
How can there not be a Third Temple when there is so much preparation already for it and so many people want it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Txly6SHt7Y
Only God knows.
Kittii
HI Kitti,
Well, the temple of Ezechiel has not been built yet. Maybe this is the time.
Kitti, first, we have to acknowledge that much Bible revelation won’t be understood til its time. In this, many have decided it is no longer about the Jews, but only about the Bride, Christians. This is called, “the replacement theory.” They have ignored that God said He would never forget His people, and at that time, He was talking about Israel.
They ignore that there is a 70th week of Daniel, and that the Jews are returning to their land, just as God said they would. And that the time of the gentiles would come to an end, and then the 7 year period introducing the anti-christ would come about.
Even with the obvious happening before their eyes, they refuse to reconsider that again, the Jews will be God’s focus for the last 7 years. I think you already know this, but you asked the question that many others may be wondering about. DavWms
Mr. Williams;
I couldn’t agree more. We’re coming to that climax in history. Dr. Stuart Dauerman explains it in this video series:
“The Fullness of Israel”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2SEk_xC9aY
Thanks for feedback.
Kittii
The Love Of God … who can measure it??
Thank you Kitti for posting this footage.
Truth upon your lips is a shield.
Anointed with oil is the shield of MERCY.
Children of Promise
“Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise”.
{Galatians 4 v 28}.
When God looks at this old world, He no longer looks upon it like He did in the days before His only Son was crucified at Calvary.
For Christ’s sacrifice on Calvary gave birth to the new covenant or testament, which He wrote on the hearts of men who accepted Christ as Lord and Saviour.
No longer does He see tribes and races of people as such, for now because of Christ’s sacrifice He sees only the children of promise and the children of the bound.
Let me explain, God states clearly in scripture that the children of God are those who have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, regardless of race or gender,
they are the children of God, yes the children of promise.
You see it is written, “And if ye be Christ’s then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to promise”, {Galatians 3 v 29}.
Abraham had two sons, one by a bondwoman called Agar, and another by a freewoman called Sarah, as it is written,
now these two sons represents the two covenants.
The first son Ishmael of the bondwoman represented Jerusalem, which is now in bondage, which also represents the old covenant,
but the freewoman’s son Isaac represents the heavenly Jerusalem, which is the new covenant.
All God’s people are one in Christ Jesus, who are under the new covenant.
Under this covenant there is no longer Jew, Gentile, slave or free, men or women, for we are all one in Christ. “For ye are all the children of promise by faith in Christ Jesus”,
{Galatians
3 v 26}.
Now God’s plan for the people of Israel is the same plan which He is using for the whole world,
and that is that we must all repent and accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour.
There is no other plan for salvation, only through Jesus.
Who was crucified for our sins and rose again for our justification, and who is alive forever more.
Praise be the wonderful name of Jesus. As it is written, “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved”, {Acts 4 v 12}.
As Isaac was, so are we the children of promise, no matter what nation we are from, God considers us all equal and precious in His sight.
So precious are we that He sacrificed His only Son for each and everyone of us.
So, let us all stand together as, the children of promise.
I would like to state that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and many more in Israel are likened unto an olive tree which also represents the children of promise.
We who believe are grafted into that tree, and so we become one with them, and are known as the true Israel of today.
Now today there are still people in Israel who are chosen by God according to election of grace who will be grafted back into the olive tree, which represents the children of promise.
We must pray for them, that they will see Jesus, for it is written, “ There shall come out of Zion the deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
for this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins”, {Romans 11 v 26 & 27}
So dear saints, let us always pray and standby Israel, for I believe that there are many yet to come to know Jesus as their true Messiah.
God bless Israel.
I couldn’t resist … did you mean abomination or Obamanation
Marianne:
Just another video on the preparation of the Third Temple. Just another indication that they have every intention of building a Third Temple when the time is right.
The Golden Crown of the High Priest: The Tzitz
Rabbi Chaim Richman and Rabbi Yehuda Click of The Temple Mount Institute: http://www.templeinstitute.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oNDsITDlu8&feature=related
Kittii
Marianne:
Just another video on the preparation of the Third Temple. Just another indication that they have every intention of building a Third Temple when the time is right.
The Golden Crown of the High Priest: The Tzitz
Rabbi Chaim Richman and Rabbi Yehuda Click of The Temple Mount Institute: http://www.templeinstitute.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oNDsITDlu8&feature=related
Kittii
Marianne;
I haven’t blogged lately, because I’ve been studying the rapture on a web page from your web site called http://www.therapturesolution.com. Someone just sent me a YOU TUBE on the preparation for the rebuilding of the 3rd temple alter. Are we getting close or what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Xaf0_avjE&feature=email
This is so exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kittii
hi kitti
I saw that video. They are poured something that looks like tar on some rocks. Not sure how to interpret this. It would be nice to see the finished product.
Most Gentile Christians fail to understand that the “Final Week” or “Time of Jacob’s Trouble” also known as the Tribulation is a time alloted to the children of Israel to fulfill all obligations.
The Lord God makes this clear through the Prophet Daniel, “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and they holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to annoint the most Holy”, Daniel 9:24. What many within the Church today fail to understand is that the Lord God still has unfinished work with Israel and will as in the Days of Old send Prophets among them and guide them into the path of righteousness that their eyes along with their hearts will be opened to receive the Lord and Messiah and King. The Temple will again be built and the sacrifice restored and Israel will again call upon the name of the Lord God. The Two Witnesses of Revelation 11 will restore this order in preparation for the coming King Yeshua that he might be annointed and crowned. It is the duty of the Priest and/or Prophet to annoint the head and to crown the King of Israel. Thus as it was in the beginning so must it be in the end to fulfill all things. The Crown of Yeshua however is to be a Three-Tier Crown as High Priest, Prophet, and King over all the Earth and the Heavens. The Temple must again be built, the levitical and Kohanim must again be reestablished, sacrifices offered, that all prophecy might be fulfilled and our Moshiach Yeshua sitting upon the Throne of David.
What we see now is the preparation for these things and soon the Battle of Gog and Magog will pave the way for the rebuilding of the Temple. The Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa Mosque will be removed by a great earthquake during this battle clearing the Temple Mount. Israel will bury these invaders for 7 months to cleanse the land in preparation for the foundation of the Temple to be laid in it’s proper place. The Lord God will again visit his people in the form of Two Prophets and begin the consumation of the Final Week or 7 years.
GOOGLE BLOODHIVE… MY SCHPIN ON THE MATTER IS THAT A TYPE OF ANTICHRIST HAS ALREADY DEFILED THE TEMPLE WITH PIGS BLOOD, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT WE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF G-D. AND THAT THE KINGDOM OF G-D IS WITHIN US. SO FROM MY PRESPECTIVE THE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST WILL TRY TO DEFILE THE TEMPLE OF G-D WITH SWINE FLU. WE KNOW THAT IN THE SCRIPTURES BLOOD IS FORBIDDEN TO CONSUME. BECAUSE DISEASES ARE CARRIED IN THE BLOOD. SO IT IS A TYPE OF DEFILEMENT FOR THE BODY OF CHRIST TO BE TAINTED WITH AN UNCLEAN ANIMAL. AND YES THE ANTICHRIST WILL DEFILE ALSO THE THIRD TEMPLE…
hi bloodhive,
True, on any level, pig blood or pig products are not kosher.
The vaccine would have to be produced in a different animal to create antibodies against pig. So it would actually be a different animal product that they would inject.
example: sheep anti- pig
It will actually be sheep plasma that is in the vaccine.
yes, but who let the dogs out? only swine can infect other swine! the only way people can be infected with swine flu, if it is altered in a lab. cdc lab